Dennis et al, Wouldn't you want to know how *much* it is costing Stu or how *little* he is making so you could send MORE money, to help out? I do so I can send MORE, not less!
Continue to pile on all you like. Being informed of the approximate costs (in time and $) would benefit everyone, least of all Stu, since listers would know what it takes and could contribute MORE. Keep em coming. Still loving this list and C&C's ;! On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 12:26 PM Dennis C. via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > This virtual C&C community has existed for over 20 years. Many of us have > escaped the list's cyber boundaries and meet in the "real" world. > > What Bill didn't mention was that Sailnet wanted to charge an ongoing fee > to all of us. We would also be subject to their advertisements and any > future fee increases. After we set up a Yahoo Groups, we found it lacking. > > Stu stepped up to the plate and offered to maintain what we now call Stu's > List. One of the promises Stu made was "no advertising, ever". We like > that. It is a community list. Although Stu diligently maintains it, we > all feel a deep sense of community and semi-ownership. Although Stu is the > "official head knocker in charge", we choose to believe this list is "ours". > > Not only does this resource make our boats more valuable, the cumulative > $$ and aggravation savings are large. Benefiting from the been there, done > that of this list is very valuable. The combined experience of our members > cover all aspects of our boats; rigging, tuning, structural repairs, > engines, electrical and electronics. > > Well worth throwing a few bucks at Stu. IMHO, if there is an excess, I > believe Stu will inform us and apply it to next year's expenses. I, like > others, think that if Stu chooses to accept an annual "bonus" of a bottle > or two of some fine adult beverage, that's good by me. He deserves it. > > Enough about this. Send $$$. > > Dennis C. > > On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 12:19 PM, Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >> We lived through this discussion a long time ago at very great length. We >> do not need to re-litigate it again. We were all originally on a group >> hosted by Sailnet. Sailnet changed hands, and we were essentially left >> homeless. At that time, we had a long debate about where to go. Google >> really didn't exist then. The big player was Yahoo. There were a few other >> options, including staying with the new owners of Sailnet, even though they >> had dumped our archives. Having been burned badly by allowing someone else >> to host us, we were all very happy to have Stu provide us a stable home, >> where some outside bean-counter would never again have the option to >> exterminate us, and throw our content in the trash. Stu has done an amazing >> job all these years, and at one time mentioned that there was a succession >> plan in place. Anyone who thinks this is in any way a "business" for Stu >> should just go back out whatever door they came in. He has put an enormous >> amount of time and effort into keeping us together, and I would be shocked >> if the bottom line has not been a bit of red ink for him. Stu has formal >> arrangements for use of the official C&C material on his website and use of >> the logo for various items he occasionally makes available as modest fund >> raisers. The founders and principal players of the old C&C have expressed >> gratitude for Stu's efforts in keeping their legacy alive. Our old C&C's >> are also more saleable, and at a higher price, thanks to Stu's generous >> work. >> >> Bill Bina >> >> On 10/26/2017 12:54 PM, Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List wrote: >> >> Stu, Thank you for what you do. No offense intended, but this is my >> perspective: >> >> Mike, >> >> I have lots of stuff on Google drives. This does not make it Google's >> property. This email list, in support of a brand of sailboats, is >> a Community of people who share a common passion. I personally do not think >> one person should own, control, and profit? from the experiences shared by >> many, for free, in support of a brand of sailboats we all love. >> >> God forbid something happens to Stu, but if it did this list would >> evaporate unless there is a succession plan that I am unaware of. Stu does >> not own the intellectual property on this list and does not own any part or >> version of the actual C&C brand to my knowledge. If anything we should be >> sending money to Rob Ball, Cuthbertson's family, etc. for the designs they >> labored over and executed so well. >> >> Cloud storage is *storage*. That's all. >> >> I have asked twice about what it costs to run the list. An answer hasn't >> been provided. >> >> Thank you. >> >> On Wed, Oct 25, 2017, 5:26 PM Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List < >> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> >>> This is stus list and moving to cloud may make it their list. >>> >>> I have met people through this list that I have later met in person who >>> are now friends. I have met people who I have never met in person who are >>> friends I have solved engine problems due to input from this list and >>> learned that cows do better foredeck work than me. I have learned a lot. >>> >>> This list is stus and we have all benefited. Moving to cloud makes it >>> not stus. I am happy to support for all the c&cs my family and i have owned >>> or sailed on and the ones that are not c&c. I believe strongly that this >>> list is so good because of Stu >>> >>> I also wonder if cows live on foredeck in Mexico >>> >>> Mike Hoyt >>> The most consistent not currently c&c poster >>> The biggest interloper >>> One of the strongest believers in what Stu has built >>> >>> 1987 non c&c >>> Persistence >>> Out of the water today >>> Halifax, ns >>> _ >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> The bills have started coming in for the year 2018 and have gone up >> again. October will be our fund raising month. Please consider sending a >> small contribution to help keep this list running. Use PayPal to send >> contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >> >> All contributions are greatly appreciated! >> >> > _______________________________________________ > > The bills have started coming in for the year 2018 and have gone up > again. October will be our fund raising month. Please consider sending a > small contribution to help keep this list running. 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