Yeah, what Bill said. Double! Dennis C.
On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 12:19 PM, Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > We lived through this discussion a long time ago at very great length. We > do not need to re-litigate it again. We were all originally on a group > hosted by Sailnet. Sailnet changed hands, and we were essentially left > homeless. At that time, we had a long debate about where to go. Google > really didn't exist then. The big player was Yahoo. There were a few other > options, including staying with the new owners of Sailnet, even though they > had dumped our archives. Having been burned badly by allowing someone else > to host us, we were all very happy to have Stu provide us a stable home, > where some outside bean-counter would never again have the option to > exterminate us, and throw our content in the trash. Stu has done an amazing > job all these years, and at one time mentioned that there was a succession > plan in place. Anyone who thinks this is in any way a "business" for Stu > should just go back out whatever door they came in. He has put an enormous > amount of time and effort into keeping us together, and I would be shocked > if the bottom line has not been a bit of red ink for him. Stu has formal > arrangements for use of the official C&C material on his website and use of > the logo for various items he occasionally makes available as modest fund > raisers. The founders and principal players of the old C&C have expressed > gratitude for Stu's efforts in keeping their legacy alive. Our old C&C's > are also more saleable, and at a higher price, thanks to Stu's generous > work. > > Bill Bina > > On 10/26/2017 12:54 PM, Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List wrote: > > Stu, Thank you for what you do. No offense intended, but this is my > perspective: > > Mike, > > I have lots of stuff on Google drives. This does not make it Google's > property. This email list, in support of a brand of sailboats, is > a Community of people who share a common passion. I personally do not think > one person should own, control, and profit? from the experiences shared by > many, for free, in support of a brand of sailboats we all love. > > God forbid something happens to Stu, but if it did this list would > evaporate unless there is a succession plan that I am unaware of. Stu does > not own the intellectual property on this list and does not own any part or > version of the actual C&C brand to my knowledge. If anything we should be > sending money to Rob Ball, Cuthbertson's family, etc. for the designs they > labored over and executed so well. > > Cloud storage is *storage*. That's all. > > I have asked twice about what it costs to run the list. An answer hasn't > been provided. > > Thank you. > > On Wed, Oct 25, 2017, 5:26 PM Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >> This is stus list and moving to cloud may make it their list. >> >> I have met people through this list that I have later met in person who >> are now friends. I have met people who I have never met in person who are >> friends I have solved engine problems due to input from this list and >> learned that cows do better foredeck work than me. I have learned a lot. >> >> This list is stus and we have all benefited. Moving to cloud makes it not >> stus. I am happy to support for all the c&cs my family and i have owned or >> sailed on and the ones that are not c&c. I believe strongly that this list >> is so good because of Stu >> >> I also wonder if cows live on foredeck in Mexico >> >> Mike Hoyt >> The most consistent not currently c&c poster >> The biggest interloper >> One of the strongest believers in what Stu has built >> >> 1987 non c&c >> Persistence >> Out of the water today >> Halifax, ns >> _ >> > > > _______________________________________________ > > The bills have started coming in for the year 2018 and have gone up > again. October will be our fund raising month. Please consider sending a > small contribution to help keep this list running. Use PayPal to send > contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > All contributions are greatly appreciated! > >
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