I think if it like NPR. I have no idea how much they need to run the stations, but I contribute anyway based on what I can afford / related to what I get out of listening.
We should treat this list the same. I am sure if most participants gave something Stu’s costs would be covered. If Stu ends up with more than he needs - great - it’s well deserved! -- Jonathan Indigo C&C 35III SOUTHPORT CT > On Oct 26, 2017, at 15:34, Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > Dennis et al, > Wouldn't you want to know how much it is costing Stu or how little he is > making so you could send MORE money, to help out? I do so I can send MORE, > not less! > > Continue to pile on all you like. Being informed of the approximate costs (in > time and $) would benefit everyone, least of all Stu, since listers would > know what it takes and could contribute MORE. > > Keep em coming. Still loving this list and C&C's ;! > >> On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 12:26 PM Dennis C. via CnC-List >> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> This virtual C&C community has existed for over 20 years. Many of us have >> escaped the list's cyber boundaries and meet in the "real" world. >> >> What Bill didn't mention was that Sailnet wanted to charge an ongoing fee to >> all of us. We would also be subject to their advertisements and any future >> fee increases. After we set up a Yahoo Groups, we found it lacking. >> >> Stu stepped up to the plate and offered to maintain what we now call Stu's >> List. One of the promises Stu made was "no advertising, ever". We like >> that. It is a community list. Although Stu diligently maintains it, we all >> feel a deep sense of community and semi-ownership. Although Stu is the >> "official head knocker in charge", we choose to believe this list is "ours". >> >> Not only does this resource make our boats more valuable, the cumulative $$ >> and aggravation savings are large. Benefiting from the been there, done >> that of this list is very valuable. The combined experience of our members >> cover all aspects of our boats; rigging, tuning, structural repairs, >> engines, electrical and electronics. >> >> Well worth throwing a few bucks at Stu. IMHO, if there is an excess, I >> believe Stu will inform us and apply it to next year's expenses. I, like >> others, think that if Stu chooses to accept an annual "bonus" of a bottle or >> two of some fine adult beverage, that's good by me. He deserves it. >> >> Enough about this. Send $$$. >> >> Dennis C. >> >>> On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 12:19 PM, Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List >>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >>> We lived through this discussion a long time ago at very great length. We >>> do not need to re-litigate it again. We were all originally on a group >>> hosted by Sailnet. Sailnet changed hands, and we were essentially left >>> homeless. At that time, we had a long debate about where to go. Google >>> really didn't exist then. The big player was Yahoo. There were a few other >>> options, including staying with the new owners of Sailnet, even though they >>> had dumped our archives. Having been burned badly by allowing someone else >>> to host us, we were all very happy to have Stu provide us a stable home, >>> where some outside bean-counter would never again have the option to >>> exterminate us, and throw our content in the trash. Stu has done an amazing >>> job all these years, and at one time mentioned that there was a succession >>> plan in place. Anyone who thinks this is in any way a "business" >>> for Stu should just go back out whatever door they came in. He has put an >>> enormous amount of time and effort into keeping us together, and I would be >>> shocked if the bottom line has not been a bit of red ink for him. Stu has >>> formal arrangements for use of the official C&C material on his website and >>> use of the logo for various items he occasionally makes available as modest >>> fund raisers. The founders and principal players of the old C&C have >>> expressed gratitude for Stu's efforts in keeping their legacy alive. Our >>> old C&C's are also more saleable, and at a higher price, thanks to Stu's >>> generous work. >>> >>> Bill Bina >>> >>>> On 10/26/2017 12:54 PM, Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List wrote: >>>> Stu, Thank you for what you do. No offense intended, but this is my >>>> perspective: >>>> >>>> Mike, >>>> >>>> I have lots of stuff on Google drives. This does not make it Google's >>>> property. This email list, in support of a brand of sailboats, is a >>>> Community of people who share a common passion. I personally do not think >>>> one person should own, control, and profit? from the experiences shared by >>>> many, for free, in support of a brand of sailboats we all love. >>>> >>>> God forbid something happens to Stu, but if it did this list would >>>> evaporate unless there is a succession plan that I am unaware of. Stu does >>>> not own the intellectual property on this list and does not own any part >>>> or version of the actual C&C brand to my knowledge. If anything we should >>>> be sending money to Rob Ball, Cuthbertson's family, etc. for the >>>> designs they labored over and executed so well. >>>> >>>> Cloud storage is storage. That's all. >>>> >>>> I have asked twice about what it costs to run the list. An answer hasn't >>>> been provided. >>>> >>>> Thank you. >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Wed, Oct 25, 2017, 5:26 PM Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List >>>>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >>>>> This is stus list and moving to cloud may make it their list. >>>>> >>>>> I have met people through this list that I have later met in >>>>> person who are now friends. I have met people who I have never met in >>>>> person who are friends I have solved engine problems due to input from >>>>> this list and learned that cows do better foredeck work than >>>>> me. I have learned a lot. >>>>> >>>>> This list is stus and we have all benefited. Moving to cloud makes it not >>>>> stus. I am happy to support for all the c&cs my family and i have owned >>>>> or sailed on and the ones that are not c&c. I believe strongly that this >>>>> list is so good because of Stu >>>>> >>>>> I also wonder if cows live on foredeck in Mexico >>>>> >>>>> Mike Hoyt >>>>> The most consistent not currently c&c poster >>>>> The biggest interloper >>>>> One of the strongest believers in what Stu has built >>>>> >>>>> 1987 non c&c >>>>> Persistence >>>>> Out of the water today >>>>> Halifax, ns >>>>> _ >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> The bills have started coming in for the year 2018 and have gone up again. >>> October will be our fund raising month. Please consider sending a small >>> contribution to help keep this list running. Use PayPal to send >>> contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >>> >>> All contributions are greatly appreciated! >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> The bills have started coming in for the year 2018 and have gone up again. >> October will be our fund raising month. Please consider sending a small >> contribution to help keep this list running. Use PayPal to send >> contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >> >> All contributions are greatly appreciated! > _______________________________________________ > > The bills have started coming in for the year 2018 and have gone up again. > October will be our fund raising month. Please consider sending a small > contribution to help keep this list running. Use PayPal to send contribution > -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > All contributions are greatly appreciated!
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