I don't know.  Like I said originally, when I first got the machine and
powered up the vertical bars would appear, and then when they disappeared
(usually 5-20 minutes later, sometimes afer flipping the power switch a
few times) the machine would immediately go into it's startup routine and
sound the bong and give me a Happy Mac proceeding as normal.  Ever since I
replaced the battery and cleaned it, it now goes to the vertical bars for
a few minutes and then when they disappear instead of going into the
startup routine the screen just stays black.  I have left it black while I
was away at work, and when I returned home seven hours later it was still
black (yesterday).  No startup bong, no nothing.  Which makes me think
maybe I fried the motherboard somehow while cleaning it.  Like after the
bars clear it's trying to find the startup code in the ROM but it's just
not there (or it's been fried away to oblivion). It really kind of makes
me angry and sad at the same time, because I was real careful, and all I
wanted to do was temporarily replace my Plus (which I actually still used
for budgeting w/ Quicken as well as other fun stuff) and I ended up paying
a bloated $50 total including shipping and handling to get the thing here.
And if it DOES turn out to be dead, I get to spend another similar amount
to replace a replacement. :(

But to try and answer your question, I get the feeling that when the bars
clear the system is trying to actually boot up.  I don't think it's just
losing the video signal showing the bars.  I think it is proceeding beyond
the "vertical bar stage" like it did originally, but instead of going to
the "normal boot" stage like it did it gets stuck in a sort of limbo
because the boot code has been fried or because of something else.  In
other words, I believe it is a hardware issue that is keeping the Classic
II from proceeding with normal boot as opposed to video signal loss being
the cause of the bars disappearing.  when the machine DID actually boot
up, I had it on for multiple days at a time with no video problems at all.

Now what the problem might be, I have no idea, aside from what I've
conjectured.  I have little technical (hardware-related) experience with
these machines, as I've never needed it until now.  Which is why I've been
hoping that somebody out there has had this problem before me.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Byron Q. Desnoyers Winmill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Compact Macs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 11:45 PM
Subject: Re: Mac Classic II booting trouble


> On Sat, Feb 21, 2004 at 10:58:33PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > This is not the first forum I have inquired about this issue.  So far,
> > there has been no one who has ever experienced the symptoms my Classic
II
> > exhibits. :(
>
> Yeah, I'm still puzzling over why the screen would go blank after
> the vertical bars disappeared.  Is there any way to determine
> whether it is loosing the video signal?  (In otherwords: is this
> a hardware problem, or is the screen being cleared by software?)
>
> Byron.
>
> --

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