I am… NOT… a supporter of the NFB most assuredly. That is very true, it is very difficult to teach sighted applications two congenitally blind individuals.
On Aug 23, 2013, at 4:06 PM, Nicole Massey <[email protected]> wrote: Someone's been listening to the NFB. Though that may be true in many cases, it's also untrue in many as well. It does make a good talking point or polemic, however, until it's used to block accessibility for blind folks. I get away with a lot of things in the kitchen or on my computer that I wouldn't recommend for most other blind folks because of my background as a restaurant manager and multiple computer related jobs. But those skills were developed using sight and then translated, and I've tried to teach them to congenitally blind folks with little success. > -----Original Message----- > From: Cookinginthedark [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Benjamin Olson > Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 4:00 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [CnD] Red lobster Biscuits > > Wholeheartedly, again, I agree. > I will say just this… > do not use your blindness as a… DIS-ability, It is a DIF-ability. > Meaning, we do things differently > > On Aug 23, 2013, at 3:51 PM, Nicole Massey <[email protected]> wrote: > > Which is your right. For yourself. > (The following isn't my signature line) > Expectations decrease joy. > "Your right to swing your fist ends where my nose begins." Robert A. > Heinlein Many blind folks have a hard enough time being comfortable > doing something in a complex environment like a kitchen, that it's not > productive to place additional restrictions in the way. Let's promote > food preparation in its myriad forms here and help to empower folks. >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Cookinginthedark [mailto:[email protected]] >> On Behalf Of Benjamin Olson >> Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 3:49 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [CnD] Red lobster Biscuits >> >> You're absolutely correct Nicole. >> However, I draw the line at the distinction between buying an entire >> box in the store, and buying separate boxes to combine later at home. >> >> On Aug 23, 2013, at 3:43 PM, Nicole Massey <[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> All cooks and chefs use prepared ingredients in their cooking, so the >> distinctions is spurious at best. If someone uses baking powder, > spice >> blends like curry or poultry seasoning, or anything in a can they're >> in the same category as those you say only "prepare" something, it's >> just a matter of degree. You do what you have to do to make it > happen, >> and with our visual roadblocks making such distinctions seems more >> than a little counterproductive. >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Cookinginthedark [mailto:cookinginthedark- > [email protected]] >>> On Behalf Of Benjamin Olson >>> Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 2:40 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [CnD] Red lobster Bisqits >>> >>> No, they are not making cakes. They are preparing cakes. As you will >>> note in the directions if you have ever read them, it does not say >>> anything about making. It says prepare. >>> Preparing is great, I do it all the time. There is a difference >>> between heating up an item, and actually making something from >> scratch. >>> >>> On Aug 23, 2013, at 2:35 PM, [email protected] wrote: >>> >>> Thank you for saying that, I can be a lazy cook, and I love using >> cake >>> and biscuit mixes. There is nothing wrong with using mixes. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Aug 23, 2013, at 1:24 PM, "Charles Rivard" <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I guess the people who buy a boxed cake mix, bring it home, mix >>>> whatever doesn't come in the box into the premeasured ingredients > in >>> a >>>> cake pan, and bake it aren't making cakes, then? Not everyone > makes >>>> everything from scratch, you know?, >>>> >>>> -- >>>> If guns kill people, writing implements cause grammatical and >>> spelling errors! >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Benjamin Olson" >>>> <[email protected]> >>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 11:55 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [CnD] Red lobster Bisqits >>>> >>>> >>>>> Really? Come on now… That's like saying you made hamburgers by >> going >>> to McDonald's. >>>>> >>>>> On Aug 23, 2013, at 11:52 AM, Mike and jean <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I have seen some recipies on this list for Red Lobster bisqits. >>>>> Well, I have found n easier way to make these delicious treats. >>>>> Sams' Club sells Red Lobster bisqits mix. there are three packs > in >>>>> each box and each pack makes ten bisqits. I have not tried this >>> yet, >>>>> however, my Mom said that the bisqits taste exactly like the ones >>>>> served by Red lobster. You only have to add a cup of cheese and I >>>>> think some milk. If anyone tries these, please let us know how >> they >>>>> are. 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