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bill  brown wrote:
> Greg, I use Aeroshell 20/50 for the same reasons that you state. I 
> believe the spring that you speak of is in the pressure relief valve 
> assembly and I verified that it is stiffer than the requirement in the 
> Continental manual, so I'm OK there. I have experienced 25 psi at
> 195 and 2300 rpm so this is where I get concerned. At low idle the 
> pressure is about 20 psi and steady so I don't think there is an engine 
> or pump problem. This is why I am checking the gauge. I'm getting this 
> done in the shop where our people do this all the time with master 
> gauges, so the price is right. I identified a gauge in the Aircraft 
> Spruce catoloque with a range to 80 that I thought would be ideal but 
> they can't supply. The alternates they proposed were not bourdon 
> tube-type units so I was reluctant to purchase as I have to follow 
> Transport Canada regs as close as reasonably possible. Gauges available 
> locally have a 120 spread and I felt as you do that it is too wide a 
> spread to get a good reading in the normal operating range. I certainly 
> appreciate your comments and will continue to investigate.
> 
> Thanks
> 
>     Bill   
> 
> Greg Bullough wrote:
> > At 01:42 PM 6/13/01 +0000, bill  brown wrote:
> > >----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before following

> > >any 
> > >advice in this forum.]----
> > >
> > >Thanks Greg, you  make a good point. I'm aware of the issue but my
> > >concern relates to the balance between acceptable oil pressure and an
> > >oil temperature that is high enough to vaporize the moisture in the
oil.
> > >I'd rather change oil more frequently than damage the engine with
> > >marginal lubrication at the bearings. My temp stabilizes at about 190
in
> > >acceptable ambients for flying but then my pressure is on the low
side.
> > 
> > What's 'the low side' mean to you? These old engines don't run the
kind
> > of pressures that newer engines do. Around 30 PSI nominal is often
> > just about it. There is also an adjustment for that up on the top of
> > the engine. A spring-loaded device limits the amount of pressure.
> > The spring can get soft. And, the oil pump can get worn as well.
> > 
> > What oil are you running in the summer? I get a bit more oil pressure
> > with Aeroshell 100 than I do with multi-vis 20/50. However I tend to
> > stick with the 20/50 except during the real heat of summer, because
> > I still fly on cool late Spring and early Fall mornings and am
concerned
> > about the impact of starting with thick oil. I also like that the
20/50
> > drains out in a more spirited and complete fashion when I change
> > oil. Deep down, I believe that its doing so carries more gunk with
> > it. Of course, that also means that slight leaks are more apparent.
> > 
> > >I haven't got the results from my pressure gauge calibration check so
I
> > >can confirm that the pressure reading is correct.
> > 
> > That's the other thing... ...many Ercoupes have had the oil pressure
> > gauge replaced with one with a larger range. That's because our
friends
> > at Stewart-Warner stopped making TSO'd gauges that stop at 60 PSI or
so,
> > and now make them around 100PSI (I forget which). Since gauges are
> > really not that accurate at their lower ranges, they're about as
useful
> > as an idiot-light.
> > 
> > However, Aircraft Spruce and Skyport both sell non-TSO'd Scott gauges
> > that are of lower range and also dirt-cheap. Here in the US-of-A you
> > need a field-approval to use them, but not any more in Canada. For
> > less than you pay for the calibration, you can have a new,
nice-looking
> > gauge in the proper range. Alternatively, you can have electronic
gauges
> > for very little more. They have the advantage of not having a
capillary
> > tube that is vulnerable to breakage (especially the temp gauge when
> > you clean the screen). Basically, every time you disturb any of that
> > stuff you risk messing up and killing either a bulb or capillary tube,
> > and then you're grounded. It's not always your fault... ...eventually
> > vibration WILL kill the capillary tube, and an over-zealous
predecessor
> > can toast the bulb on the temp gauge pretty easily.
> > 
> > When that happened to me, I was lucky and the local A&P had a
> > 10-year-old-new-in-the-box oil SW temp gauge in a nice low range.
> > I think I got the last one in existence :-)
> > 
> > Greg
> > 
Low oil pressure is generally caused by worn con rod and main crankshaft 
bearings. High oil temps can be from eccessive blow-by from worn piston 
rings.  Craig 2623H

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