In a message dated 03/03/2001 11:52:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>> 
 No-one who lived thru the downfall of the USSR could ever have been in any
 doubt about the fate of Yugoslavia, but actually, wasn;t that fate sealed a
 long time-- a very long time-- ago-- when Tito split with Stalin and created
 the so-called "Non-aligned movement"? Anyone remember what that was?
  >>

Washington recalls the nonaligned movement quite well, Mark.  That's why as 
soon as the Soviet Union was destroyed, the U.S. went after its leaders, Iraq 
and Yugoslavia.

>>That was one of the first wedges imperialism drove into socialism.
>>

As Mark is fond of saying, "life is not that simple".  The nonaligned 
movement provided a sanctuary for movements that wanted to be politically 
independent of Imperialism without endorsing the Soviet system.  Especially 
important in Stalin's time; he had an unfortunate  habit of dictating that 
anti-imperialist movements do disastrous and even suicidal things, as the 
tactical mood hit him.  The nonaligned movement nurtured resistance along the 
lines of Lumumba and Castro.  Of course Soviet power shielded them from the 
U.S.

>> 
 HOWEVER it must be said that if Jared is a revolutionary and not merely a
 cheerleader for the Serbian Socialist Party, then it is time to move on 
[from Yugoslavia]. It is  time to take in the larger picture, and address the 
global conjuncture, of  which Balkan crises are only facets.>>

Why the stupid bait, Mark?  Are those of us who have gotten info on the 
Anglo-U.S-German attack on Yugoslavia to Leftists AND rightists and just 
regular people supposed to stop opposing the U.S. attempt to pacify the 
Balkans (i.e., physically eliminate the Serb resistance) now that the SPS is 
not in power?  THAT would show we were "cheerleaders." As for being 
"revolutionary" I leave that for you.  I'm just a an old guy who opposes his  
country's efforts to crush those around the world who resist.

The Balkans is a) a crucial "conjuncture" of the  Anglo-U.S. and 
semi-competing German efforts to conquer the East and b) poses the question, 
for the world: is independence from the new Anglo-U.S. empire possible?  It 
is intimately linked to Iraqi resistance (the Serbs were providing military 
technical support for Iraq; the new regime betrayed the Iraquis), to the 
increase in Chinese resistance/independence, to the question of whether Cuba 
can survive as independent, and so on.  

What you really mean, Mark, is we should do nothing while England and the 
U.S. destroy Yugoslavia because 50 years ago the former Yugoslavia refused to 
bow to Stalin and for you that is unforgivable. 

Me a cheerleader for the SPS?  Emperor's Clothes hardly mentioned the SPS as 
such until the Anglo-U.S. regime in Belgrade started trying to eliminate it. 
It is VERY good that in the face of a real threat of physical destruction, 
the SPS leadership has not made peace with England and the U.S. Miloshevich 
has not crawled or fled.  That is being watched by millions.

Mark, I know you "lived through the downfall of the USSR," and it is hard for 
you to forgive the world, but if you are not to remain "just a cheerleader" 
for Stalin, "then it is time to move on."

Jared

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