On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 12:15:06PM -0500, David Ramsey wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 12:42 AM, Jude <bookofj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Likewise, we could also tweak Grinder's flavour considerably to meet
> > whatever flavour we end up with for Makhleb.
> 
> This is definitely interesting.  Would he also be a Makhlebite then, or
> not (since he's an ex-torturer and possibly unworthy)?
> 
> > I seem to recall that there was previous flavour making Makhleb the
> > God of Hell: if there is still this flavour lying around, perhaps we
> > could incorporate it -- making the hell lord lieutenants of Makhleb,
> > or at least exalted followers? I'm not too sure how it would work in,
> > but I've always felt that our Hell mythology wasn't as full as it
> > could be.
> 
> It could work, but what would Makhleb do with regard to hell effects,
> since protection from them is currently Zin's territory?

You mean, a good god of law being opposed to an evil god of chaos?  They're
near exact opposites; "near" because Zin is more lawful than good while
Makhleb is more evil than chaotic.  Zin can have another arch-enemy beside
Xom.

Makhleb protecting his charges from his own hell effects or mitigating them
doesn't conflict with Zin doing (mechanically) the same.  A similar case:
necromantic torment is Kikubaaqudgha's shtick, and both she and TSO
partially protect you from it, her on the basis of hurting her own
worshippers being counterproductive, him because his warriors need his
support while vanquishing evil.  There, even the mechanics are different:
Kiku randomly negates it completely, reduces damage or does nothing, while
TSO grants rN+++ for a constant ~1/3 reduction.

By the way, torment being closely tied to Kiku means Makhleb should stay
away from it.  It could be explained by it working by draining life force,
while Makhleb prefers delivering pain and destruction in physical ways.  He
supports no less than four ways of dealing it: healing warriors, sending his
summons, fueling mages and fueling invoking his own destructive powers.

-- 
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                //      Never attribute to stupidity what can be
                //      adequately explained by malice.

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