Once upon a time we also had US based servers. Same deal.
Hosting servers as a clan or community never has been about raising or earning
money. These are hobby projects and you should treat them as such.
Besides having paid for the game, VALVe owes you nothing in terms of server
software and support.
And it’s quite simple. If these infectious ads wouldn’t be in the MOTD and
people didn’t resort to trying to “sell off” items that should be unlocked,
there shouldn’t be a problem. No donations, no servers, no games to play for
the people. They’ll donate if that is the case – they’ve always have.
The communities started to do everything to grab money in dirty ways. Since
then VALVe’s own servers started showing up, and you know the rest of the story.
Anyway, it’s all history, it’s not going to change and the ‘good old days’
ain’t never returning and VALVe isn’t going to listen to the outcries. That’s
also why you don’t find any CS:GO servers anymore with us, as we more or less
gave up with SRCDS based games.
So in summary – give it up, save yourself from a lot of frustration and
headaches. Accept the situation for what it is. Find a way to deal with it, or
don’t. It isn’t ever going to change back into anything workable.
Saint K.
From: Csgo_servers [mailto:csgo_servers-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On
Behalf Of Absurd Minds
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 5:37 PM
To: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] Valve should create a place to report cheating
servers, on website
Location is a huge factor. I can tell by your website you're based in Europe
(but I couldn't find your csgo servers?), which has a much different cago
community than America. There's a much greater emphasis on competitive play in
Europe and vanilla servers are more accepted, whereas in America things are a
lot more casual. It's very difficult to get donations in America if you're not
providing something like skin plugins, and nobody cares enough about any
community to purchase a reserved slot. That's why almost all American servers
run ads or are simply paid out of pocket by the owner. Things that work in one
market don't always work in other markets, and it's a huge mistake to
generalize as if they do.
On Jun 14, 2017 11:23 AM, "Saint K." <sai...@specialattack.net> wrote:
I've been running gaming communities since 1999.
That money grabbing attitude is something from the last 5-10 years.
Donations never have been an issue for any of the communities I've dealt with.
A simple reserved-slot reward is what users receive on donating. It's simple
economics - create something people *want* and you shall have no problem
surviving. If you create half-assed shit whining about not being able to make
money, your servers deserve to die a painful death.
I already mentioned VALVe has no interest in us anymore. They've achieved their
wealth. People hosting gamingcommunities are none of their interest anymore.
Complaining about any of these situations is not going to help. It hasn't for
the past years, and it surely won't help now. They simply don't give a flying
fuck.
Saint K.
From: Kristaps Kusiņš <kristap...@gmail.com>
To: <csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com>
Sent: 6/14/2017 3:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] Valve should create a place to report cheating
servers, on website
You are a moron if you think that people want to pay for something that they
can get for free, I could apply the same logic to valves decision, if people
want to buy skins they will buy them why block the plugins?
And those servers who continue running these plugins are UNIQUE and they exist
because players are paying for it, so it is quite obvious what players actually
want...
2017-06-14 15:30 GMT+02:00 Saint K. <sai...@specialattack.net>:
That's where the communities went wrong.
You don't host servers to earn money with. You put down a proper concept and
people will donate out of free will. That's how you pay for your servers.
If your concept fails, no donations, you have no reason to exist.
Money grabbing idiots like you screwed shit up.
Saint K.
From: Kristaps Kusiņš <kristap...@gmail.com>
To: <csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com>
Sent: 6/14/2017 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] Valve should create a place to report cheating
servers, on website
The problem is that they don't realize we have to pay server bills too...
On Jun 14, 2017 2:22 PM, "Andre Müller" <gbs.dead...@gmail.com> wrote:
This concept of monetization kills the community. You can observe day for day
the dwindling gameserver community.
Good bye srcds.
Kristaps Kusiņš <kristap...@gmail.com> schrieb am Mi., 14. Juni 2017 um 11:43
Uhr:
Why the heck there is such a thing as forbidden plugins, that is like making a
mod for skyrim, and skyrim devs would ban players for using it. This is just
plain stupid.
On Jun 14, 2017 11:37 AM, "Rolf Maas" <zappe...@hotmail.com> wrote:
What is your point? They already get banned every 2 days….
Yes, they get new tokens every banwave… Valve doesn’t care, since they’ll just
earn more $$$$$$$$$$$ when they ban the servers.
Since Valve doesn’t care about the community at all, people will always use
forbidden plugins. Maybe you just should do the same… ;-)
-Rolf
Van: Csgo_servers <csgo_servers-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com> namens Nguyễn
Bảo Danh <danh20...@gmail.com>
Beantwoorden - Aan: <csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com>
Datum: woensdag 14 juni 2017 11:30
Aan: <csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com>
Onderwerp: [Csgo_servers] Valve should create a place to report cheating
servers, on website
Valve should create a place to report cheating servers, on website. We don’t
need to join their server to report in game.
As we can Find they listing here:
http://www.gametracker.com/search/csgo/?query=%21ws+%21knife
Those servers with !knife !gloves !ws plugins.
Thanks and best regards!
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