I am pretty sure he just manually changed the code so it's not 0 On Jun 14, 2017 6:25 PM, "Andrew Jackson" <andrewjackson....@gmail.com> wrote:
> Saint K is so adorable. Very strong, hard coded opinions about how > community servers should be run based on his 18 years of real life > community operating experience. If communities aren't run how he thinks > they should, they should die a painful death, their owners probably should > too huh? > > Let's take a look at Saint K's well maintained community that survives on > donations and nothing more. Head on over to specialattack.net. There you > can see their donation counter in the top left corner, which SHOCKINGLY > reads $0 of $160 needed and here we are halfway through the month! Can you > believe it? I can't. It absolutely has to be an error because his highly > developed website (circa 1999) and the non-existing TF2 & CSGO game servers > that he is running during peak hours in Europe definitely must draw more > than enough happy supporters that are willing to donate their hard earned > money to his obviously well maintained community, as opposed to spending > their money on other games, skins, or things that help them ensure their > thirst for instant gratification is quenched. > > And here Saint K is, no online CS:GO servers or anything, kind enough to > come to the CSGO servers mailing list and fill us all in on how communities > should be operated. His 2 CSGO servers ( https://hlstatsx. > specialattack.net/hlstats.php?game=csgo ) are booming with popularity > (they aren't. they're not even online xD) and he is sparing his precious > time to help us by belittling our efforts and throwing off personal > insults. > > Let's take a look at his TF2 servers. It APPEARS that he has a pretty good > amount and that at least 1 is popular ( https://hlstatsx. > specialattack.net/hlstats.php?game=tf ). WRONG. Here is that same stats > page + player counts next to the Steam Server browser where I added all his > servers to my favorites. Kind funny how only 1 of them is even online, it's > Garry's Mod, and it's empty, that is really weird: http://imgur.com/ > BoaCUh6 > > And lastly, here is his 1 single server that shows up in game tracker (I > tried every combination of special attack names to make sure this was > accurate): http://www.gametracker.com/search/?query= > specialattack&sort=2&order=ASC > > So tell us more bullshit Saint K, you slimey weasel. All you ever do is > show up here, acting holier than thou, thinking you are something special. > Spoiler alert: you're not. You don't even peak anyone's radar until you > come flapping your gums. Your non existent servers are empty. Your forums > are dead. Donations don't exist outside of you donating for appearances. > Get over yourself, fuckin twat. > > UPDATE: Just as I was finished writing this, he had a 19 dollar donation > show up on his counter. That is fucking hilarious. Saint, are you sending > the lunch money your mom gave you to your donations so it looks like > someone cares? Lol =D > > > On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 11:37 AM, Absurd Minds <goabs...@absurdminds.net> > wrote: > >> Location is a huge factor. I can tell by your website you're based in >> Europe (but I couldn't find your csgo servers?), which has a much different >> cago community than America. There's a much greater emphasis on competitive >> play in Europe and vanilla servers are more accepted, whereas in America >> things are a lot more casual. It's very difficult to get donations in >> America if you're not providing something like skin plugins, and nobody >> cares enough about any community to purchase a reserved slot. That's why >> almost all American servers run ads or are simply paid out of pocket by the >> owner. Things that work in one market don't always work in other markets, >> and it's a huge mistake to generalize as if they do. >> >> On Jun 14, 2017 11:23 AM, "Saint K." <sai...@specialattack.net> wrote: >> >>> I've been running gaming communities since 1999. >>> >>> That money grabbing attitude is something from the last 5-10 years. >>> >>> Donations never have been an issue for any of the communities I've dealt >>> with. A simple reserved-slot reward is what users receive on donating. It's >>> simple economics - create something people *want* and you shall have no >>> problem surviving. If you create half-assed shit whining about not being >>> able to make money, your servers deserve to die a painful death. >>> >>> I already mentioned VALVe has no interest in us anymore. They've >>> achieved their wealth. People hosting gamingcommunities are none of their >>> interest anymore. >>> >>> Complaining about any of these situations is not going to help. It >>> hasn't for the past years, and it surely won't help now. They simply don't >>> give a flying fuck. >>> >>> Saint K. >>> >>> >>> * From: * Kristaps Kusiņš <kristap...@gmail.com> >>> * To: * <csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com> >>> * Sent: * 6/14/2017 3:46 PM >>> * Subject: * Re: [Csgo_servers] Valve should create a place to report >>> cheating servers, on website >>> >>> You are a moron if you think that people want to pay for something that >>> they can get for free, I could apply the same logic to valves decision, if >>> people want to buy skins they will buy them why block the plugins? >>> >>> And those servers who continue running these plugins are UNIQUE and they >>> exist because players are paying for it, so it is quite obvious what >>> players actually want... >>> >>> 2017-06-14 15:30 GMT+02:00 Saint K. <sai...@specialattack.net>: >>> >>> That's where the communities went wrong. >>> >>> You don't host servers to earn money with. You put down a proper concept >>> and people will donate out of free will. That's how you pay for your >>> servers. >>> If your concept fails, no donations, you have no reason to exist. >>> >>> Money grabbing idiots like you screwed shit up. >>> >>> Saint K. >>> >>> >>> * From: * Kristaps Kusiņš <kristap...@gmail.com> >>> * To: * <csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com> >>> * Sent: * 6/14/2017 2:49 PM >>> * Subject: * Re: [Csgo_servers] Valve should create a place to report >>> cheating servers, on website >>> >>> The problem is that they don't realize we have to pay server bills >>> too... >>> >>> On Jun 14, 2017 2:22 PM, "Andre Müller" <gbs.dead...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> This concept of monetization kills the community. You can observe day >>> for day the dwindling gameserver community. >>> >>> Good bye srcds. >>> >>> Kristaps Kusiņš <kristap...@gmail.com> schrieb am Mi., 14. Juni 2017 um >>> 11:43 Uhr: >>> >>> Why the heck there is such a thing as forbidden plugins, that is like >>> making a mod for skyrim, and skyrim devs would ban players for using it. >>> This is just plain stupid. >>> >>> On Jun 14, 2017 11:37 AM, "Rolf Maas" <zappe...@hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> What is your point? They already get banned every 2 days…. >>> >>> Yes, they get new tokens every banwave… Valve doesn’t care, since >>> they’ll just earn more $$$$$$$$$$$ when they ban the servers. >>> >>> >>> >>> Since Valve doesn’t care about the community at all, people will always >>> use forbidden plugins. Maybe you just should do the same… ;-) >>> >>> >>> >>> -Rolf >>> >>> >>> >>> *Van: *Csgo_servers <csgo_servers-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com> >>> namens Nguyễn Bảo Danh <danh20...@gmail.com> >>> *Beantwoorden - Aan: *<csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com> >>> *Datum: *woensdag 14 juni 2017 11:30 >>> *Aan: *<csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com> >>> *Onderwerp: *[Csgo_servers] Valve should create a place to report >>> cheating servers, on website >>> >>> >>> >>> Valve should create a place to report cheating servers, on website. We >>> don’t need to join their server to report in game. >>> >>> As we can Find they listing here: >>> http://www.gametracker.com/search/csgo/?query=%21ws+%21knife >>> >>> >>> >>> Those servers with !knife !gloves !ws plugins. >>> >>> >>> Thanks and best regards! >>> >>> __________________________________________________ >>> >>> Danh Nguyễn Bảo >>> >>> *Phó Giám Đốc* >>> >>> *Cty Quảng Cáo Minh Thành L.H.P* >>> >>> p: >>> >>> 84-8 2213 0604 m: 0976168179 <09761%2068179> >>> >>> a: >>> >>> 374/25 Lê Hồng Phong, P.1, Q.10, HCMC >>> >>> w: >>> >>> minhthanh.com e: d...@minhthanh.com >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ Csgo_servers mailing >>> list Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com https://list.valvesoftware.com >>> /cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Csgo_servers mailing list >>> Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com >>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Csgo_servers mailing list >>> Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com >>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Csgo_servers mailing list >>> Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com >>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Csgo_servers mailing list >>> Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com >>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Csgo_servers mailing list >>> Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com >>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Csgo_servers mailing list >>> Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com >>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Csgo_servers mailing list >>> Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com >>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Csgo_servers mailing list >> Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Csgo_servers mailing list > Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >
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