Its just too bad that Battle Creek, MI isn't being blacklisted by Earthlink
and/or RR.  Then they could take on someone their own size!  I would pay to
see that one unfold!! :-)

Newsflash: City issues subpoenas for Earthlink blacklist data.  Doesn't know
where to serve it.  Can't contact company.  Sent email to support address.
Waiting for reply!

Todd

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chad Killion
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 2:32 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Road Runner blocking email


You are right.  It was originally a Road Runner issue, but now it seems
as though you have made it your issue by blocking them.  Now all of
roadrunners customers can not email yours, and they will claim the same
thing "Its his issue, not ours."  What I have done in cases like this is
swallow my pride and do the waiting game.  I have found that retaliation
only makes it worse for my customers.

Chad

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
andyb@thumpernet
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 2:53 PM
To: Webmaster Oilfield Directory
Subject: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Road Runner blocking email


Hi,

Yes, I agree.  Thing is, this is a Road Runner issue, not mine.

And if was an issue with my mail servers, the spirit of co-operation
that normally governs such things on the Internet was lost here.  This
reminds me of something AOL would pull.  Punish everyone for one rogue
email server.

So, what would ya'll do?  I have called, emailed, etc.  72 hours is
ridiculous.

This especially annoying in light of the efforst I have put into
implementing anti-spam and virus software to protect my users....

Thanks,
Andy Baldwin

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.thumpernet.com
315-282-0020

Wednesday, March 27, 2002, 3:46:10 PM, you wrote:

WOD> Ain't that the truth! Scream if it doesn't  work and forget the
WOD> other times when it does work.


WOD> ----- Original Message -----
WOD> From: "Matt Robertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
WOD> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
WOD> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:39 AM
WOD> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Road Runner blocking email


>> Or your customers, sympathetic to your position but needing proper
>> email service, will go somewhere else.  All they care about are
>> results, not blame or punishing the guilty.
>>
>> Just a thought,
>>
>> --Matt Robertson--
>> MSB Designs, Inc.
>> http://mysecretbase.com
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
>> andyb@thumpernet
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:35 AM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Road Runner blocking email
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> This has to do with spam and the like so I thought it would be of
>> interest to the list.
>>
>> Sometime yesterday, any email addressed @twcny.rr.com was coming back

>> as undeliverable.  Examination of logs shows that they are refusing
>> all email coming from 216.153.138, and entire block of class C
>> addreses, of which I only have 32.
>>
>> So, I followed the instructions given in the log file, went the web
>> site, sent them an email.  The clock is ticking.
>>
>> I call Road Runner tech support, get a level 3 tech, who says he
>> can't see that anything is being blocked.  He sends me an email about

>> an hour later saying that all issues of this type have to be resonded

>> to by email, the same email I had already sent, and that it would
>> take 24 to 72 hours for a response.
>>
>> I have been in this biz for 7 years and never had an issue like this.
>>
>> They are not following the RFC's as I understand them, as they are
>> punishing everyone with a mail server in the Class C, for something
>> that probably only one email server was involved with.  I was not
>> sent an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] informing me of any issues.
>>
>> At this point, I've returned the favor.  Road Runner is blacklisted.
>> I have sent an email to my users explaining the inappropriate
>> blocking of email by roadrunner.  Perhaps if Road Runner gets enough
>> complaints from their users, they will rethink their excessive
>> enforcement policy.
>>
>> Comments anticipated.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Andy Baldwin
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> http://www.thumpernet.com
>> 315-282-0020
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