No, because of the name. On 30 October 2014 17:34, Jan Lehnardt <j...@apache.org> wrote: > >> On 30 Oct 2014, at 17:33 , Noah Slater <nsla...@apache.org> wrote: >> >> The confusion with Couchbase is large, widespread, and shows no signs >> of resolving itself any time soon. This issue is constantly coming up >> on social media, in person, and so on. > > Because of the logo? I hardly think so. > > Best > Jan > -- > > >> >> On 30 October 2014 17:04, Andy Wenk <andyw...@apache.org> wrote: >>> On 30 October 2014 16:47, Noah Slater <nsla...@apache.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Clear up massive brand confusion with Couchbase, basically. >>>> >>> >>> I am not sure how big this special issue is because I clearly see the >>> situation from CouchDB. If we have a look to the people on the ML who think >>> it's Couchbase, that's very minimal ... I would prefer to keep the name and >>> clarify the situation as often as possible >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> On 30 October 2014 16:35, Andy Wenk <andyw...@apache.org> wrote: >>>>> sure - IF we want to rename then with 2.0. But before I give my whatever >>>>> vote, I would like to know which advantages you expect to get with a >>>> rename >>>>> .... as of now - I can only think of negative aspects ... >>>>> >>>>> On 30 October 2014 16:08, Jason Smith <jason.h.sm...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Love it. Get away from the WhateverDB thing. Just stake out an arbitrary >>>>>> mark from which we build clear, unambiguous IP. >>>>>> >>>>>> My proposal (as long as we are brainstorming names): >>>>>> >>>>>> Eight Ball >>>>>> >>>>>> Tagline: Whatever you do. Don't get more eight ball! >>>>>> >>>>>> More seriously, yes, a name change has lots of problems. But it is worth >>>>>> re-considering Noah's point that now is the best time to do it, if it >>>> is to >>>>>> be done. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 10:02 PM, Noah Slater <nsla...@apache.org> >>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I've been wanting to rename it SleepyDB for a while now. (cf. Max >>>>>>> Ogden's SLEEP protocol.) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 30 October 2014 11:43, Kevin Coombes <kevin.r.coom...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> Definitely -1 on changing the name. It's already "cooked" into >>>>>> everything >>>>>>>> associated with the project. There are links (and hard copy >>>> references) >>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> the name and the web site(s) all over the place. How long do you >>>> want >>>>>> to >>>>>>> be >>>>>>>> forced to maintain DNS or HTTP entries to forward users from the >>>>>> current >>>>>>>> names to whatever you might pick for new ones? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I would be perfectly happy to see a new logo however. And the last >>>>>> time I >>>>>>>> looked, there were a lot more colors than just red or blue.... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Kevin >>>>>>>> On Oct 30, 2014 6:11 AM, "Brad Noble" <br...@us.ibm.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *SyncDB* >>>>>>>>> The database that syncs. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Logo would embody that idea. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [image: Inactive hide details for Jason Smith ---10/30/2014 >>>> 04:40:26 >>>>>>>>> AM---On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 12:52 AM, Noah Slater <nslater@apache >>>>>>> ]Jason >>>>>>>>> Smith ---10/30/2014 04:40:26 AM---On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 12:52 AM, >>>>>> Noah >>>>>>>>> Slater <nsla...@apache.org> wrote: > Blue is nice. :) But the >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> From: Jason Smith <jason.h.sm...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> To: "dev@couchdb.apache.org" <dev@couchdb.apache.org> >>>>>>>>> Date: 10/30/2014 04:40 AM >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Improved CouchDB logo >>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 12:52 AM, Noah Slater <nsla...@apache.org> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Blue is nice. :) But then that tempts me to change the name too. >>>> I >>>>>>>>>> mean, if we're ever going to do this, now is the time. It's >>>>>> important >>>>>>>>>> to note though that we have a very STRONG brand, and changing it >>>> in >>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>> big will be expensive. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Change the name! Change the name! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Like all transitions, it seems scary. But once it's done we will >>>> all >>>>>>> wonder >>>>>>>>> what we were so worried about. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The brand is strong, but the question is, how much of that strength >>>>>> can >>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>> keep, and how much do we lose. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I think we will keep nearly all of it, plus we will get tons of >>>>>>> attention >>>>>>>>> with a 2.0 release and name change. And as if that already isn't >>>>>>> enough, we >>>>>>>>> get the opportunity to walk away from a ton of branding baggage and >>>>>>>>> trademark problems. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Change the name! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Noah Slater >>>>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Andy Wenk >>>>> Hamburg - Germany >>>>> RockIt! >>>>> >>>>> GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588 >>>>> >>>>> https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Noah Slater >>>> https://twitter.com/nslater >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Andy Wenk >>> Hamburg - Germany >>> RockIt! >>> >>> GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588 >>> >>> https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc >> >> >> >> -- >> Noah Slater >> https://twitter.com/nslater >
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