Ah, sorry, I thought this was in reply to me. Hooray for non-threaded MUAs :/
> On 30 Oct 2014, at 17:47 , Noah Slater <nsla...@apache.org> wrote: > > I was replying to this thread: > > Andy: >> sure - IF we want to rename then with 2.0. But before I give my whatever > vote, I would like to know which advantages you expect to get with a rename > .... as of now - I can only think of negative aspects ... > > Noah: >> Clear up massive brand confusion with Couchbase, basically. > > Andy: >> I am not sure how big this special issue is because I clearly see the > situation from CouchDB. If we have a look to the people on the ML who think > it's Couchbase, that's very minimal ... I would prefer to keep the name and > clarify the situation as often as possible > > On 30 October 2014 17:45, Jan Lehnardt <j...@apache.org> wrote: >> My comment on Couchbase was related to the logo, not the name. >> >> Best >> Jan >> -- >> >> >> >>> On 30 Oct 2014, at 17:39 , Noah Slater <nsla...@apache.org> wrote: >>> >>> No, because of the name. >>> >>> On 30 October 2014 17:34, Jan Lehnardt <j...@apache.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 30 Oct 2014, at 17:33 , Noah Slater <nsla...@apache.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> The confusion with Couchbase is large, widespread, and shows no signs >>>>> of resolving itself any time soon. This issue is constantly coming up >>>>> on social media, in person, and so on. >>>> >>>> Because of the logo? I hardly think so. >>>> >>>> Best >>>> Jan >>>> -- >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 30 October 2014 17:04, Andy Wenk <andyw...@apache.org> wrote: >>>>>> On 30 October 2014 16:47, Noah Slater <nsla...@apache.org> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Clear up massive brand confusion with Couchbase, basically. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I am not sure how big this special issue is because I clearly see the >>>>>> situation from CouchDB. If we have a look to the people on the ML who >>>>>> think >>>>>> it's Couchbase, that's very minimal ... I would prefer to keep the name >>>>>> and >>>>>> clarify the situation as often as possible >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 30 October 2014 16:35, Andy Wenk <andyw...@apache.org> wrote: >>>>>>>> sure - IF we want to rename then with 2.0. But before I give my >>>>>>>> whatever >>>>>>>> vote, I would like to know which advantages you expect to get with a >>>>>>> rename >>>>>>>> .... as of now - I can only think of negative aspects ... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 30 October 2014 16:08, Jason Smith <jason.h.sm...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Love it. Get away from the WhateverDB thing. Just stake out an >>>>>>>>> arbitrary >>>>>>>>> mark from which we build clear, unambiguous IP. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> My proposal (as long as we are brainstorming names): >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Eight Ball >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Tagline: Whatever you do. Don't get more eight ball! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> More seriously, yes, a name change has lots of problems. But it is >>>>>>>>> worth >>>>>>>>> re-considering Noah's point that now is the best time to do it, if it >>>>>>> is to >>>>>>>>> be done. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 10:02 PM, Noah Slater <nsla...@apache.org> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I've been wanting to rename it SleepyDB for a while now. (cf. Max >>>>>>>>>> Ogden's SLEEP protocol.) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 30 October 2014 11:43, Kevin Coombes <kevin.r.coom...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Definitely -1 on changing the name. It's already "cooked" into >>>>>>>>> everything >>>>>>>>>>> associated with the project. There are links (and hard copy >>>>>>> references) >>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>> the name and the web site(s) all over the place. How long do you >>>>>>> want >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>>> forced to maintain DNS or HTTP entries to forward users from the >>>>>>>>> current >>>>>>>>>>> names to whatever you might pick for new ones? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I would be perfectly happy to see a new logo however. And the last >>>>>>>>> time I >>>>>>>>>>> looked, there were a lot more colors than just red or blue.... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Kevin >>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 30, 2014 6:11 AM, "Brad Noble" <br...@us.ibm.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> *SyncDB* >>>>>>>>>>>> The database that syncs. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Logo would embody that idea. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Inactive hide details for Jason Smith ---10/30/2014 >>>>>>> 04:40:26 >>>>>>>>>>>> AM---On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 12:52 AM, Noah Slater <nslater@apache >>>>>>>>>> ]Jason >>>>>>>>>>>> Smith ---10/30/2014 04:40:26 AM---On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 12:52 AM, >>>>>>>>> Noah >>>>>>>>>>>> Slater <nsla...@apache.org> wrote: > Blue is nice. :) But the >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> From: Jason Smith <jason.h.sm...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> To: "dev@couchdb.apache.org" <dev@couchdb.apache.org> >>>>>>>>>>>> Date: 10/30/2014 04:40 AM >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Improved CouchDB logo >>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 12:52 AM, Noah Slater <nsla...@apache.org> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Blue is nice. :) But then that tempts me to change the name too. >>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>>>>>> mean, if we're ever going to do this, now is the time. It's >>>>>>>>> important >>>>>>>>>>>>> to note though that we have a very STRONG brand, and changing it >>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>>> big will be expensive. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Change the name! Change the name! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Like all transitions, it seems scary. But once it's done we will >>>>>>> all >>>>>>>>>> wonder >>>>>>>>>>>> what we were so worried about. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The brand is strong, but the question is, how much of that strength >>>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>>>>> keep, and how much do we lose. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I think we will keep nearly all of it, plus we will get tons of >>>>>>>>>> attention >>>>>>>>>>>> with a 2.0 release and name change. And as if that already isn't >>>>>>>>>> enough, we >>>>>>>>>>>> get the opportunity to walk away from a ton of branding baggage and >>>>>>>>>>>> trademark problems. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Change the name! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Noah Slater >>>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Andy Wenk >>>>>>>> Hamburg - Germany >>>>>>>> RockIt! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Noah Slater >>>>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Andy Wenk >>>>>> Hamburg - Germany >>>>>> RockIt! >>>>>> >>>>>> GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588 >>>>>> >>>>>> https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Noah Slater >>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Noah Slater >>> https://twitter.com/nslater >> > > > > -- > Noah Slater > https://twitter.com/nslater
