On Sun, Jun 30, 2019, 11:18 PM Ross Gardler <[email protected]> wrote:
> So you are saying that because I'm a member of the foundation, a > participant on this list and a reprentative of a sponsor I can't donate > money to Outreachy and ask for the intern to work on projects here? > > What if I wasn't a member? > > What if I decide which project the intern works on rather than the ASF > doing that? > Outreachy sponsors do not get a say in which specific project they are funding. They can only direct towards a community. We've turned down sponsors that want to claim a specific Linux kernel project was funded by them, for example. It's too complicated, politics often get involved, so Outreachy does not allow that. Sponsors fund the Outreachy general fund or a community. Applicants pick which project to work on. That's been explained elsewhere. Sage Sharp Outreachy Organizer > What if the intern decides? > > Ross > > Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36> > > ________________________________ > From: Ted Dunning <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2019 10:36:01 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Request for summary update (was Re: Does Outreachy mean we > are paying for code? Is that acceptable?) > > Alex, > > I think that the position is that the ASF has substantial control if we > induce donors to give funds to Outreachy that are earmarked for the ASF and > then have a strong (possibly highly distributed and not board-driven) hand > in picking what proposals are matched with interns. I don't think that > there is a suggestion that the donations be open for any placement and I > don't that there is a suggestion on the table for ASF to not have a voice > in which projects get matched to interns. That voice or influence might be > as light as projects finding mentors and writing up possible projects and > then accepting or rejecting intern candidates. > > That is pretty similar to the logic used in, say, campaign finance laws > that coordination is the key question rather than whose name is on the > check. > > > On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 10:29 PM Alex Harui <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > On 6/30/19, 4:02 AM, "Sam Ruby" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > the fact that we will orchestrating and directing the spending > > of the funds from the beginning to the end > > > > I am still not understanding why having an entity provide money directly > > to Outreachy is "orchestrating and directing the spending of the funds > from > > the beginning to the end" in a way that is unprecedented and/or harmful. > > IMO, everyone contributing to the ASF should be trying to influence other > > entities to financially support the projects they care about. Unless you > > have signing authority, or organizational authority over the signing > > authority, I don't get how you can be "directing the spending" instead of > > just lobbying/influencing. > > > > Maybe we need to drill down on that first. > > > > Thanks, > > -Alex > > > > >
