Mark's good list got me thinking that we are coming at this in one of
the classic ways. Enumerate some issues, look for some solutions.
I'd like to suggest that there is another way. We should be looking
for the fun opportunities.
Installed bases are very hard to move forward. You need to either
force them or create unbelievably cool value. I call these "upgrade
forcers" to make it clear that they tend to be coercive. Consider how
amazing the 1984 Mac was compared to DOS and you'll get a feel for how
hard it is to make new features and value into an upgrade forcer. A
large portion of the market is never going to move until there are
forcers; for example their hardware or OS rots and they want to move to
hardware that 1.3 doesn't support. You wouldn't believe the market
share of window's 95. As Gates bemoans "Our largest competitor is old
versions of the OS."
So I think people should relax, don't worry so much about 2.0 vs 1.3.
I don't see exactly why that is a competition that needs our attention.
In this discussion people have been making two kinds of lists. The
list of hypothetical reasons why activity seems to be petering out.
The list of possible cures for those hypothetical ills.
We need a third list. A list of fun hacks that 2.0 enables.
It would be good to spend more effort on what the compelling value in
the 2.0 family is and making it more accessible for people. Doc that
lowers the barrier to entry. Success stories that create a sense of
safety.
There is a lot that's cool in 2.0; a kernel that enables a lot of
amusing fun thing to happen. We need to awaken in people the desire to
tap into that cool stuff.
For example there is a fun thing waiting to happen that involves a
binary protocol between Mozilla and Http. For example there are some
interesting possibilities that help met the scripting languages
halfway. Filters could us a clever man's attention. A rich C based
XML module would be good. Something along the lines of Cocoon.
So, The update rate of 2.0 is really a red herring.
I'm more concerned about what we can do to create a more awareness,
desire, and opportunity for cool hacks to emerge.
- ben
- FreeBSD threads was RE: consider... Justin Erenkrantz
- Re: FreeBSD threads was RE: cons... Aaron Bannert
- Re: FreeBSD threads was RE: cons... Marc G. Fournier
- Re: FreeBSD threads was RE: cons... Aaron Bannert
- RE: consider reopening 1.3 Marc Slemko
- RE: consider reopening 1.3 Rasmus Lerdorf
- Re: consider reopening 1.3 Ian Holsman
- Re: consider reopening 1.3 Rasmus Lerdorf
- Re: consider reopening 1.3 Henning Brauer
- Re: consider reopening 1.3 Martin Kraemer
- Re: Finding da fun. Ben Hyde
- Re: Finding da fun. Bill Stoddard
- Re: Finding da fun. Brian Pane
- Re: Finding da fun. Eugene Lee
- Re: consider reopening 1.3 Bill Stoddard
- RE: consider reopening 1.3 Peter J. Cranstone
- RE: consider reopening 1.3 Peter J. Cranstone
- Re: consider reopening 1.3 Ben Collins-Sussman
- Patch management André Malo
- Re: Patch management Jeff Trawick
- Re: Patch management Joshua Slive