>- see footer for list info -< Well, you do note that you need to buy in volume to get the first things, and then 3k *per year* for SQL Server, well, over a few years that's a lot of money. :-)
As for the rest, well, yes, it's economics. I don't know that they can see much in new sales/demand, so yes, that means the price/supply cost goes up. Still, though, I agree with most who say it's a relative bargain. Hard to resell/bundle CF at high prices, I agree. That's really an entirely different subject, though. I've never seen bundling prices publicized. I know when I last looked several years ago, it wasn't much of a discount, which was too bad. A locked-down version that could only do a specific precompiled app might help solve some problems and be economically feasible to Adobe in not stealing sales (since shops couldn't use it for other than the locked down app). With the ability to precompile code and deploy sourceless as of CF7, I'm surprised we've not heard more call for that. /charlie -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 12:18 PM To: Coldfusion Development Subject: Re: [CF-Dev] CF8 launched - prices get hiked >- see footer for list info -< I don't have flame thrower to hand, Charlie, but I don't disagree with everything you say. However, MS aren't expensive when it comes to most of their products. Using volume licensing (volume does not mean you need to buy lots of licenses) you can stick Windows 2003 Std on your server running IIS6 and .NET, load balancing, etc for under $300 a year. And when Windows Server 2008 and IIS7 are released you can upgrade at no cost. While you can use MySQL to power websites very effectively, some clients feel safer if you use Oracle or MS SQL. That's something they're willing to pay for because of reputation and branding and you can license SQL Std for just over $3K/year. Okay, it's not their Ent product (man, that is expensive!) but for redundancy you can use mirroring to ensure your other SQL servers are kept in sync at all times. So you don't need to spend a fortune on non-Adobe products to get a lot of good software running a serious operation. I would never deny Adobe the income to pay for the excellent development work of CF Ent, or indeed a profit! But what they're doing is pricing it high and selling less copies. They probably know how many copies they expect to sell. It will be the usual people buying CF8 - loyalists and others who haven't taught themselves .NET for whatever reasons (I'm one of them!). So in order to recoup their costs they can work out how much it needs to be priced at - that's why it's gone up. The other model is to drop the price and expect increased sales. Sales could increase to a level where they're making more money because of reaching businesses who had previously rejected CF as too expensive, and it would be more affordable to whack in extra web servers running CF. With their current model they will not increase sales and they know it. If they thought they could introduce CF to new customers they'd come up with a strong marketing campaign, but at the current price it won't turn heads so any marketing would be a waste of money. Adobe could choose to make money mostly from development tools. This is something MS have done for years with their Studio line of products which probably subsidises the zero-cost of using .NET. I still use Dreamweaver and will continue to buy it so long as it keeps up with CF's features, although I am tempted by CFEclipse. Adobe need to innovate and come back with a faster version of DW that doesn't screw up CF code under some circumstances. Gary. _______________________________________________ For details on ALL mailing lists and for joining or leaving lists, go to http://list.cfdeveloper.co.uk/mailman/listinfo -- CFDeveloper Sponsors:- >- cfdeveloper Hosting provided by www.cfmxhosting.co.uk -< >- Lists hosted by www.Gradwell.com -< >- CFdeveloper is run by Russ Michaels, feel free to volunteer your help -<
