>- see footer for list info -< OK Charlie I'll see how well you do next time I have one of my obscure server issues that even the guys on CFGURU usually cannot answer :-) Russ
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charlie Arehart Sent: 31 July 2007 16:52 To: 'Coldfusion Development' Subject: [!! SPAM] Cf support (was RE: RE: [CF-Dev] CF8 launched - prices get hiked) >- see footer for list info -< Well, support is an entirely different subject. I was just referring to the discussion of the pricing of CF. I know that many have found CF support to be lacking, but it can't be everyone, or it wouldn't survive as a business unit. Of course, there are plenty of free options out there for folks, if they can find it. And not everyone can afford that per call price anyway. In that regard, if I can do a brief commercial here, I'm doing what I can to help with my pay-per-minute service. :-) I can't promise to solve all problems, but I do offer a refund if I do not solve a caller's problem. Most have found that the conversation still aided them in ways beyond the specific problem they sought to solve, as I may share some other insight/feature/tip they hadn't yet considered. And at US$1.99 per minute, that's just a quid in UK money. What a bargain. :-) More at www.carehart.org/askcharlie/ /charlie -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Snake Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 11:17 AM To: 'Coldfusion Development' Subject: RE: RE: [CF-Dev] CF8 launched - prices get hiked >- see footer for list info -< Well if they provided good support then that would certainly shut me up, but you have to pay like $500 just to speak to someone, and in my experiences when I have used their paid support for a quick solution, I didn't get one. Still ende dup solving it myself and giving the solution to them. Russ -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charlie Arehart Sent: 31 July 2007 15:54 To: 'Coldfusion Development' Subject: [!! SPAM] RE: [CF-Dev] CF8 launched - prices get hiked >- see footer for list info -< And isn't that interesting: MS can afford to offer responsive, free support by employing an army of people. How do they pay them? The money comes from somewhere. They own the OS. People pay for that. They own the desktop app space, people pay for that. It's like the web app development is a loss leader. They can give it away because they make money elsewhere. Is it fair, then, to deride Adobe for charging (even a fair bit) for CF? Where should they get the money to pay their development and support staff? In fact, they instead own the RIA space (for now), but Flash doesn't bring much direct revenue to Adobe I imagine, and Flex is pretty much free. I think we just have to recognize that we can't expect Adobe to give away CF. The model and economics just don't suit it. I do wish folks would stop moaning about the price. It is what it is. There are so many good things about CF8. Either take it or leave it. OK, let me slip into my flame retardant suit. I'm sure peeping up like this could bring all manner of flames and arrows upon me. Just felt it needed to be said in response to that last sentence below. /charlie _______________________________________________ For details on ALL mailing lists and for joining or leaving lists, go to http://list.cfdeveloper.co.uk/mailman/listinfo -- CFDeveloper Sponsors:- >- cfdeveloper Hosting provided by www.cfmxhosting.co.uk -< >- Lists hosted by www.Gradwell.com -< >- CFdeveloper is run by Russ Michaels, feel free to volunteer your help >-< _______________________________________________ For details on ALL mailing lists and for joining or leaving lists, go to http://list.cfdeveloper.co.uk/mailman/listinfo -- CFDeveloper Sponsors:- >- cfdeveloper Hosting provided by www.cfmxhosting.co.uk -< >- Lists hosted by www.Gradwell.com -< >- CFdeveloper is run by Russ Michaels, feel free to volunteer your help -<
