Jason van Zyl wrote: ...
...No one has every lobbied as hard as you to get someone thrown out of Apache in addition to carrying out a compaign to eradicate and existing solution to replace it with their own.
I have been the Chair of Avalon at the time this happened.
I can assure you that the reasons why the Avalon PMC decided to throw Peter Donald out of Avalon had nothing to do with Stephen, although the bad relationship between the two was something that helped exacerbate the situation.
Note that this is not a tentative to defend Stephen of past or present wrongdoings. I just want to say that the decision of the Avalon PMC, that during the process was being monitored actively by board members, took a completely independent decision that had nothing to do with Stephen's actions.
My personal understanding, in extreme summary, is that Peter Donald refused to actively collaborate with some other Avalon members. I had seen the fracture in the community and proposed him to make Phoenix a project on par with Avalon; the Phoenix committers would have had access to Avalon, but not vice versa. He refused. It is unacceptable that in a single project developers are not allowed to work on parts of the codebase without this being a voted decision.
If you need more details feel free to ask me directly. In any case the history of it is all in the dev and pmc mail archives.
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I definitely intend to try and set an example of a project that is healthy and concerns itself with its own endeavors and remains out of the affairs of other projects. To let projects decide of their own accord what tools they wish to use.
I believe that reuse is very important in OS, and that in Apache it's good that projects collaborate rather than competing. But there is no Apache rule whatsoever that I know of that makes it compulsory for projects to use each other. So as much as I disagree with this notion, I have to agree that the Maven PMC and project must be left free to do so if they wish.
One final note, speaking as myself, which I really can't resist.
Stephen: stop breaking our balls, Maven doesn't want to collaborate with you, get over it.
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Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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(discussions get forgotten, just code remains)
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