On 26/11/2009, at 6:24 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote:

> If ever we really needed to push out builds more frequently I would just do 
> it from Sonatype. I've given up trying to be truly agile at Apache, it's just 
> not going to happen.

I don't understand what the issue is with the current process. Benjamin is 
already getting them out faster than the majority of people will be able to 
test and review them. Any faster and you might as well just be using the CI 
builds for whatever purpose you have in mind. You're not going to be able to 
push out anything from Sonatype that's any more official than those, so what 
benefit does anyone get from a build that loses the frequency of CI builds and 
loses the benefit of being reviewed before publishing?

The rules about not promoting snapshots to users are there for good reasons - 
to make sure the PMC does actually authorize releases and the users know what 
they are getting, and to encourage actually doing releases (instead of everyone 
running their own version of trunk). I don't see any upside to a change that 
loses those. There's no problem pointing individuals to the grid for *testing* 
purposes as far as I know, as long as they know what they are getting is not a 
release and may not work at all.

Thanks,
Brett



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