Brian, I'm not sure if you were replying to me or others, but you quoted me and snipped my actual point:
"I'm fine with either more or less frequent releases... I'm not fine with circumventing review or pushing releases outside the ASF." I agree with everything you said below. I was saying we need to keep the 72h voting window because there are good reasons for it. It's not that everyone has to review - just that everyone has the opportunity to. - Brett On 28/11/2009, at 1:40 AM, Brian Fox wrote: >> I'm also not pushing for duration for "testing" purposes. That's part of it, >> but as Jason said >> automation can reduce the need over time (though it's never going to be 100% >> so there's some value >> in testing). However, it is mostly for an opportunity to review changes. If >> we do "8 releases a day", > > 8 releases a day or even 2 a day is just a straw man setup to refute > the speed of releases. Noone is really going to do that at Apache > because it's pointless, so it's pointless to even discuss it. > > If the releases are coming out too fast for you, don't test them if > you don't want. The rules say at least 3 PMC must vote, but it most > certainly does not say ALL PMCs must vote on every release. I haven't > had time to look at every one so I haven't voted. I only vote on > things I've checked out and that's what every PMC member has the > responsibility to do. The Apache requirements state that we need to > validate the basics like license, buildability of the source bundle > etc. It does not mean we have to manually QA every bit, although > generally people do make sure it does in fact work. All these things > can be automated, and they will be shortly on r.a.o. If that satisfies > your criteria, then you can use that to vote. The rules don't say > exactly how you have to make up your mind, it's up to you. > > I'm actually surprised that people are complaining about weekly > releases. If I thought it was worth the time, I could find hundreds of > requests to release faster. Sheesh. > > --Brian > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
