Let's not beat the dead horse. No one cares. There's not good reason for not releasing something immediately if there are fixes available. That's just not the way it works here, that's fine and not a big deal.

On 2009-11-25, at 7:52 PM, Brett Porter wrote:


On 26/11/2009, at 6:24 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote:

If ever we really needed to push out builds more frequently I would just do it from Sonatype. I've given up trying to be truly agile at Apache, it's just not going to happen.

I don't understand what the issue is with the current process. Benjamin is already getting them out faster than the majority of people will be able to test and review them. Any faster and you might as well just be using the CI builds for whatever purpose you have in mind. You're not going to be able to push out anything from Sonatype that's any more official than those, so what benefit does anyone get from a build that loses the frequency of CI builds and loses the benefit of being reviewed before publishing?

The rules about not promoting snapshots to users are there for good reasons - to make sure the PMC does actually authorize releases and the users know what they are getting, and to encourage actually doing releases (instead of everyone running their own version of trunk). I don't see any upside to a change that loses those. There's no problem pointing individuals to the grid for *testing* purposes as far as I know, as long as they know what they are getting is not a release and may not work at all.

Thanks,
Brett



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Thanks,

Jason

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