There's a problem with this whole discussion. Participants are mixing criticism 
of webapps with criticism of Desktop applications which use a HTML5Component as 
their renderer. I don't know if I should respond, because technologies like 
DukeScript or Electron do not suffer from this browser compatibility problem. 
They ship their own renderer/browser. Still we keep getting this. 

It's correct, that there are many frameworks. That's because the technology has 
lots of users. Nobody forces you to use these frameworks. Still some of these 
frameworks show modern approaches of UI development which make software 
development, faster, more testable and lead to less code. My experience from 
porting Swing applications to DukeScript is, that by using the MVVM pattern you 
can throw away 4/5th of the UI code. And the remaining code will be completely 
testable with simple unit tests. 

--Toni


-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Glenn Holmer <ce...@kolabnow.com> 
Gesendet: Dienstag, 13. März 2018 18:58
An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Apache HTML/Java UI instead of ... Oracle will remove JavaFX from 
Oracle JDK

On 03/13/2018 12:13 AM, cowwoc wrote:
> Web-based development is cool because everyone is jumping on board. It 
> isn't cool because it's better. Every week there is a new framework. 
> The level of cross-platform compatibility doesn't begin to compare to Java.
> You have portability problems across different browsers on the same 
> operating system, not to mention different operating systems.

Very well said, totally agree.

--
Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the 
aftermath -- and Cenbe."

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