On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 3:28 PM, Marcus (OOo) <marcus.m...@wtnet.de> wrote: > Am 01/11/2013 12:36 AM, schrieb Rob Weir: > >> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 5:18 PM, Marcus (OOo)<marcus.m...@wtnet.de> >> wrote: >>> >>> Am 01/10/2013 10:59 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: >>> >>>> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Marcus (OOo)<marcus.m...@wtnet.de> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Am 01/08/2013 09:37 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: >>>>> >>>>>> On 07/01/2013 Marcus (OOo) wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Am 01/07/2013 09:54 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/porting/mac/ >>>>>>>> So I'd recommend either keeping the page and updating it. Or >>>>>>>> replacing it with a page that says that the Mac port is now full >>>>>>>> integrated with our releases and then link to the download page. Or >>>>>>>> put in a 401 redirect from that URL to the download page. ... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> OK, then I prefer to use a redirect to the download area. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sounds good. Actually, we can redirect everything under >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/porting/mac/ >>>>>> >>>>>> to the homepage, since links on the old page include support, >>>>>> screenshots, downloads... all resources directly available from the >>>>>> project homepage. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Then I would like to volunteer to try this on Sunday. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Hi Marcus, >>>> >>>> I took a closer look at the data and I have some concerns from an SEO >>>> perspective. >>>> >>>> We get a large number of visits from users who query Google for terms >>>> like: >>>> >>>> openoffice for mac >>>> open office mac >>>> openoffice mac >>>> free office for mac >>>> download openoffice for mac >>>> >>>> Try these queries in your browser. See the porting page is the >>>> number one hit. For me the 2nd hit is CNet and then we start hitting >>>> malware sites. We don't get another openoffice.org web page until >>>> position #10 in the search results. >>>> >>>> If we redirect to the home page, which does not mention "Mac" >>>> anywhere, then the next time Google updates its index it will see that >>>> as the contents of /porting/mac and judge it to be far less relevant >>>> to queries like "openoffice for mac". >>> >>> >>> >>> Does it help to leave some keywords on the "/porting/mac/index.html"? >>> The the Google indexing bot recognize it, redirects then to the new >>> webpage >>> and we keep the search hits. >>> >> >> If you do a redirect at the HTTP level then Google won't ever see the >> contents of the /porting/mac pages. It will only see the destination >> page's contents. >> >> You could possibly do a<meta http-equiv="refresh> style redirect from >> within the browser, but that can be a bad user experience. > > > I thought about to do it this way. Is there a better way? > > >>>> So I think we should consider this carefully. >>> >>> >>> >>> Of course. >>> >>> >>>> Is there anything >>>> >>>> actually wrong with the /porting/mac page as it is? >>> >>> >>> >>> Ahm, besides totally outdated and no longer needed data not. ;-) >>> >>> When I look around there is nearly nothing that should be kept (links, >>> screenshots, X11<--> Aqua, release news about older versions, FAQs). >>> >> >> OK. I am not a Mac person. Is there anything useful we could say >> about OpenOffice on the Mac? Any FAQ's? Any useful instructions? >> >>> >>>> Here's an alternative idea. If the issue is that this is no longer a >>>> "porting" project, then maybe we could do something like this: >>>> >>>> 1) Create a new landing page for users interested in OpenOffice for >>>> Mac. Maybe it is at http://www.openoffice.org/mac. Maybe it is based >>>> on whatever is relevant still from /porting/mac. It doesn't need tons >>>> of content, but enough to be relevant. >>>> >>>> 2) Redirect /porting/mac/* to /mac/index.html >>>> >>>> 3) Delete the old /porting/mac >>> >>> >>> >>> Why does a Google search behave different here? Sorry, I don't see the >>> difference to just redirect. >>> >> >> The redirect would work the same way. The difference is in the >> contents of the landing page. If we redirect to the home page, or the >> download page, there is almost no discussion about Mac OpenOffice. >> The old page, even if the content is out-of-date, is still seen as >> relevant. > > > OK, so the difference is to leave the keywords on the target webpage and not > on the one that is redirecting. >
Yes. > To create "http://www.openoffice.org/mac"; with some content helping to keep > the Google hits high and a big, visible download link (which points to the > actual download webpage) should be hopefully enough. > The current .porting/mac page isn't fancy, but it does have a central "Get the latest Apache OpenOffice release for your MacOS X." with a link to the download page. I'd keep it simple. What is the minimum amount of information a Mac user needs to know? Maybe, what versions of MacOS are supported? Maybe anything special to know about installing with Lion security? That plus a download link. Regards, -Rob > Right? > > >>> PS: >>> I want to get rid of the old content but of course not loose the Google >>> search hits. >>> >> >> Me too ;-) >> >> -Rob >> >> >>> Marcus > > > Marcus
