On Jun 9, 2013, at 7:36 AM, janI wrote:

> On 9 June 2013 16:04, Ian Lynch <ianrly...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I noticed that LibreO has 26 Certified Developers.
>> 
>> http://www.documentfoundation.org/certification/developers/
>> 
>> While we have the concept of a committer here at AOO is there
>> something specific for active code developers? Would it be worth
>> considering such a thing?
>> 

The LO page is more about the people who are "certified" coders. This is a 
functional equivalent to an svn auth list on the codebase - those AOO 
committers who work on the codebase as opposed to QA, Infra, Marketing and most 
importantly Translation.

Apache is a flat organization. We don't make this distinction. Do we want to 
start playing a marketing game of numbers, or do we want to put our energy into 
writing the best code? [4]

> 
> I think the committer status, covers much of the "certification", if we do
> such a thing for developers, we should also do it for
> QA, documenters etc.

Exactly. If anything we should highlight our differences. We are an 
organization where active contribution and engagement of all kinds is 
important. It is community over code. [1]
.
> I do like the lo page, as such, because it clearly shows who (and from
> where) are paid, and who are volunteers. Such a list would be nice to have
> for newcommers, especially if it included a line or two about the interest
> of each.

We have built similar information. Committers just need to maintain it.

It is currently in the CWiki here [2]

Originally it was here [3]

We could add more here, or we could describe that the project is a community of 
volunteers, etc. We could remind committers to update their details on the wiki 
or request help with doing so.

Regards,
Dave

[1] http://communityovercode.com/
[2] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Directory+of+Volunteers
[3] http://openoffice.apache.org/people.html

[4] I don't want to restart this discussion, but this is one reason why I am 
against having a different svn auth list for the codebase unless there is a 
demonstrated problem. This may be done in private. If I have inexplicably 
changed my mind later then it will be because a real security threat to the AOO 
codebase is manifest. 

> 
> rgds
> jan I.
> 
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