Hi Niclas, 

have to admit that I didn't quite understand your suggestion.

Chris



´╗┐Am 27.01.20, 10:01 schrieb "Niclas Hedhman" <nic...@hedhman.org>:

    My two cents; you could recommend that companies that has commercial
    support to use a unique name on their offering/landing page that gets
    picked up by search engines and let the general public know what that word
    is...
    
    When I personally am looking for this for project Foo, then "foo -site:
    apache.org" is the starting point. And that could be smoother.
    
    
    Cheers
    
    On Mon, Jan 27, 2020, 16:28 Julian Feinauer <j.feina...@pragmaticminds.de>
    wrote:
    
    > Hes, but as I understand it you are already doing that, so this should
    > yield result soon : )
    >
    > Am 27.01.20, 09:24 schrieb "Christofer Dutz" <christofer.d...@c-ware.de>:
    >
    >     Yeah ...
    >
    >     not sure this is not too much ... we should in general have this
    > checked if such a page would be in line with the ASF bylaws.
    >
    >     Chris
    >
    >     Am 27.01.20, 08:21 schrieb "Julian Feinauer" <
    > j.feina...@pragmaticminds.de>:
    >
    >         Hi,
    >
    >         I think we should list the companies with a short outline like,
    > e.g. postgres does it here:
    > https://www.postgresql.org/support/professional_support/europe/
    >
    >         For codecentric one could write (I see no problem):
    >         PLC4X was initially started as an internal project at codecentric
    > and open soure to the ASF. Christofer Dutz, the initiatior of PLC4X helps
    > in his daytime job clients with the implementation of Drivers and blab la
    > blab la
    >
    >         And for us we could / would write something similar:
    >         The beautiful, wise, intelligent and charismatic Julian and his
    > blalbalblablalbal
    >
    >         I think you get the point? : )
    >
    >         Julian
    >
    >         Am 27.01.20, 08:17 schrieb "Christofer Dutz" <
    > christofer.d...@c-ware.de>:
    >
    >             Hi Julian,
    >
    >             I think having links to commercial support offerings is a
    > pretty important thing for us to have.
    >             If we have to allow anyone be listed there (even if they don't
    > contribute to the project) well that will be "the toad we have to swallow"
    > (Don't know how to translate this German saying to English).
    >
    >             Right now I see the industries worries of not being able to
    > get commercial support as being one of the most problematic things ... 
that
    > was why I put the "commercial support" thing on our landing page.
    >
    >             Would it be possible to mark companies who employ committers
    > of the project (but not which ones) with a "*" and an explanation?
    >
    >             Chris
    >
    >
    >
    >             Am 27.01.20, 08:10 schrieb "Julian Feinauer" <
    > j.feina...@pragmaticminds.de>:
    >
    >                 Hey,
    >
    >                 @Christofer Dutz you can also a general discuss about
    > whether or not we should do that.
    >                 I am mostly concerned with clear rules, if we do it.
    >                 But, in the end, its not granted, lets discuss it and if
    > we cant get an agreement decide it.
    >
    >                 Julian
    >
    >                 Am 27.01.20, 06:55 schrieb "Christofer Dutz" <
    > christofer.d...@c-ware.de>:
    >
    >                     Hi Justin,
    >
    >                     So in general it would be OK to have a list of links
    > to companies plc4x support pages?
    >
    >                     I don't care about seeing the ties between persons and
    > companies.
    >
    >                     Just not happy to have any company listed.
    >
    >                     Chris
    >                     ________________________________
    >                     Von: Justin Mclean <jus...@classsoftware.com>
    >                     Gesendet: Montag, 27. Januar 2020 01:45
    >                     An: dev@plc4x.apache.org <dev@plc4x.apache.org>
    >                     Betreff: Re: [DISCUSS] Guideline for "professional
    > support" Mentioning on Homepage
    >
    >                     Hi,
    >
    >                     > as Lukas just opened up a discussion about
    > mentioning commercial support on the (new) PLC4X Homepage.
    >                     > One Example where this is done is Apache Druid (
    > https://druid.apache.org/community/ see Getting Help).
    >
    >                     I dislike the Druid example as it shows who the
    > committers are working for, that should not matter. Individuals contribute
    > to Apache projects not companies. Having links to those companies (next to
    > the committer name) when they may or may not be ASF sponsors is even 
worse.
    >
    >                     Re commercial supped listing them is OK as long as all
    > that ask are listed and it not being seen as promoting or suggesting one
    > over another. It must be vendor neutral.
    >
    >                     Thanks,
    >                     Justin
    >
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