> so I highly recommend > considering the community participation aspect of a potential committer. > Utilizing The Apache Way is the most important aspect to creating a healthy > project and community over time.
Alright :-) > But while we are just beginning, I do not recommend > immediately adopting the model where committer automatically equals PMC > member. Changing this can be discussed at a later time when the project is > more mature and is more comfortable acting as a cohesive group. +1. Nowadays, we may focus our eyes on how to build a more mature and cohesive group :-) > 在 2017年1月3日,23:37,Bruce Snyder <[email protected]> 写道: > > I agree in general -- the bar for commit should not be too high at the > moment, but it should be a sliding scale over time as the project matures > further so that the bar is higher. Learning, practicing and embodying The > Apache Way is the ultimate goal of ASF incubation, so I highly recommend > considering the community participation aspect of a potential committer. > Utilizing The Apache Way is the most important aspect to creating a healthy > project and community over time. > > I have learned from experience that the PPMC should be carefully chosen and > the traditional ASF model of roles that Von mentioned is the best way to > start. E.g., a contributor might become a committer if s/he demonstrates > the right stuff, a committer might become a PMC member if s/he demonstrates > the right stuff. > Bruce > > On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 5:21 AM, Von Gosling <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> 1. Refer to RTC or CTR problem >> >> For commit, may be, we could use CTR. For PR, we would prefer to RTC. We >> are high valuing the quality in RocketMQ. So, it is a better way to use the >> conservative strategy from my opinion :-) >> >> 2. Refer to PPMC and committer relationship >> Thanks Justin refers. We are not familiar with Apache recommended way for >> this problem. But i have learn about something about PMC additional >> responsibilities. IMO, we really want to keep the community diversity. >> Committer may be a good candidate for entering into PMC. For the same >> reason, contributor may be a good candidate for becoming Committer. >> >> AFAIK, Apache Tomcat have separate the PMC member and committer role. And, >> Apache Storm may regard as the committer as PMC member when someone make a >> great achievement for the project[1]. >> >> 1. http://storm.apache.org/contribute/People.html < >> http://storm.apache.org/contribute/People.html >> <http://storm.apache.org/contribute/People.html>> >> >> >> >>> 在 2017年1月3日,16:33,Justin Mclean <[email protected]> 写道: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>>> IMO, not only the number of PR, more concerned about the quality of PR. >>> >>> Just try not to have the bar too high / wait too long to vote potential >> candidates in. This may discourage people being invoved and hinder >> community growth. But it’s totally up to this PPMC to decide this. >>> >>>> PPMC number of members should be less than the number of committer, >> IMHO, >>>> the committers are not all PPMC. >>> >>> Which is fine being a PPMC/PMC member had additional responsibilities [1] >>> >>>> RTC +1 The reference quality is the first priority. >>> >>> JFYI This is uncommon in Apache projects and all projects I have been >> involved in have been CTR. In CTR any commit is just a revert away. I’ve >> not seen many cases where it’s been an issue, especially where you have >> good test coverage and code quality metrics. But again it’s totally up to >> the PPMC to decide. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Justin >>> >>> 1. https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#policy >> >> > > > -- > perl -e 'print > unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*" );' > > ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ <http://bit.ly/2je6cQ> > Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bsnyder.org/> <http://bruceblog.org/ > <http://bruceblog.org/>> > Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder <http://twitter.com/brucesnyder>
