To clarify this even further: 
The Geronimo Server is now officially dead. 
But the Geronimo project is not. It alredy contains quite a few modular parts 
which are reused in many ASF projects and also outside.
Examples is the geronimo-transaction-manager, geronimo-javamail, 
geronimo-config, xbean-finder, etc

Of course it would probably make sense to fold those 2 projects together, as 
already discussed in the past.
I'm still all open to it, but I have an important criterium to fulfil: 
If we move those portable parts to TomEE, then this would mean that TomEE would 
become an 'Umbrella project'.
And further that we would need a new name for those portable parts. 
They would effectively be mainatained by the TomEE community (which has a big 
overlap with Geronimo anyway) but those parts must clearly be recognized 
separately from TomEE.

Otherwise people will assume that those parts only work within TomEE - where in 
reality they would even work on WildFly or Liberty, etc. or even a naked Tomcat.
Got me?

We might e.g. brand them as 'TomEE Geronimo Spare Parts Department' :) 


PS: I'd also love to keep the org.apache.geronimo package name to ease backward 

> Am 02.02.2018 um 11:08 schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau <>:
> 2018-02-02 11:05 GMT+01:00 Otávio Gonçalves de Santana <
>> Guys, I have a question:
>> Why not a project to each implementation?
> this is the case but geronimo is used as an umbrella project.
>> This way I can use just a specific if I want also.
> exactly the goal and user usage AFAIK ;)
> long story short: we learnt from the past errors and since always the same
> people work on these projects it is better to not split it accross N
> communities since
> it leads to a lot of efforts for these people. Having a single umbrella
> project with N subprojects reduces the administrative work etc and enhance
> the projects productivity.
>> On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 7:44 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau <>
>> wrote:
>>> Hi JL,
>>> Microprofile apache effort is hosted in geronimo and John already spoke
>>> about it I think. Would probably saner to keep it all at the same place
>> for
>>> the foundation.
>>> Romain Manni-Bucau
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>>> 2018-02-02 9:39 GMT+01:00 Jean-Louis Monteiro <
>>> :
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> I was wondering if we could have the Microprofile JWT implemented in
>>> TomEE.
>>>> What do you think?
>>>> I was reading the spec and I'd like to contribute that in.
>>>> Jean-Louis
>>>> --
>>>> Jean-Louis Monteiro

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