Hi Graham,

>> you have always said that buttons on the main page could directly refer
>> to the most appropriate subdomains. I think this is a bad idea, and I
>> would keep things more under control of one 'authority', being this
>> group. Only then we can guarantee style consistency, which is important
>> for the user experience as well. Maybe you don't think this is that
>> interesting, but I don't think the landing on the why page, which has a
>> totally different lay-out than the normal OpenOffice.org website (~first
>> page ;) ) is communicating quality. Imho, this years redesign should
>> include subpages for the main buttons, thus including learn, download
>> etc.
>
> I have no issue with that, the important thing with the Why page is the
> richness of the content.    We have nothing anywhere that approaches it in
> terms of information for newbies

Well, I don't want to throw it away, I only think that if you have a
minimalist first page and you get thrown at the why page (less good
example to make my point), or the support page (better example)... the
pages we send most people to (which are connected to the 5 action
statements) should follow the same guidelines as the main page. Else...

> We have to be careful that we don't isolate the Homepage from all of the
> project pages, that would simply be bad management.

We were using the shop metaphor. Not including the subsequent pages in the
redesign would be comparable to window dressing a factory warehouse.

> The homepage is the gateway  to the rest of the site.   It is true that
> we should have some Interface Guidelines, however uniformity can be
> viewed as conservative, lacking in imagination, lacking in Dynamism when
> in fact OOo is completely the opposite

I am only talking about the first pages, not about the entire site, that
would also simply be impossible. I only think it is a bad idea that just
after the welcome you should send users into grey hallways, second door
left, and there you'll find it probably.

[...]
>
> It certainly doesn't seem to worry Microsoft
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/
> http://www.msn.com/
> http://office.microsoft.com/en-gb/default.aspx

That is an unfair comparison, since it is about totally different
products, and even these pages have things in common like the use of blue.
I don't want to adhere to the Sun website guidelines, even though I like
the visual appeal of it.

> I'm also mindful of the timeframe.  Creating a new Homepage that leverages
> what we have already is achievable within the timeframe, then downstream
> we update the others.  They are a resource that should not be wasted

The timeframe can be extended if we need more time, we shouldn't launch a
half-baken website. I think what Louis wanted is merely a good proposal.
Before going online it probably has to go through the community council
and or project leads etc. So we need to come with a convincing proposal. I
don't see why, given the activity we have seen lately, that creating a
good proposal is impossible before the 15th.

g.,



Maarten


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