Charles,
Can't ask for more than trying to get a quicker plan of attack. As for
not calling David a liar, I am not either but that is why I had stated
"Un-Confirmed". I don't personally know him so as far as I know, he could be
the one "Trying" to steal it ;)
Thanks Charles!!
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles Daminato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mike Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 4:37 PM
Subject: Re: hijacking, AGAIN
> A few things...
>
> When tracking down these issues, we need to contact many people including
> the previous registrant, current registrant, reseller, registrar, etc.
> This is difficult to do over a weekend. There might need to be
> investigation into the time of the change, and other activities. Even if
> there was an "emergency" compliance/dispute person, it would take a day or
> two (or more) to track down the problem and come to a resolution.
>
> Also, while this may appear to be a "stolen" domain, from the information
> I have it's been "stolen" for quite some time and we have nothing to show
> that it wasn't an authorized registrant change by the previous owner (not
> that I'm calling david a liar, far from it, but we only have so much to
> work with).
>
> This was not a transfer (RSP->RSP, or REG->REG) so we didn't "authorize"
> it; this was a registrant change which (for all I know) was approved by
> the old contact some time ago. Or this could have been a dispute which
> was won by the current registrant (reseller may, or may not have been
> involved in this process)
>
> There's truly no such thing as reclaiming a domain "quickly"; even if we
> did track down the current registrant and got some extra information, the
> zone updates only happen so often so there'd be some lagtime until the
> domain moved back.
>
> Still, I'm trying to do somethings, but it *is* the weekend and there's
> limited staff around to assist.
>
> Charles Daminato
> TUCOWS Product Manager
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> On Sat, 16 Mar 2002, Mike Allen wrote:
>
> > Hi Charles,
> >
> > Is it not possible to implement a "Emergency" oncall person in
> > compliance/dispute to quickly investigate these claims as they arise?
What
> > is you woke up one morning, and OpenSRS.org had been stolen and was
pointing
> > somewhere else? I know you wouldn't wait till Monday to fix it. ;) Just
> > another good example. As good as OpenSRS has been in my experiences so
far,
> > I am sure you can kick someone in the you know where to get a faster
> > resolution made. Your future feature is a start, but although it would
not
> > happen often, it would be nice to be able to reclaim a domain quickly as
> > many people such as us "Live" off of the internet. It is our income that
> > pays our employees checks ;)
> > A domain name is as big of an investment these days as buying a new car
> > ($30 thousand buck a roos) even though the registration cost is not near
> > that ;) A domain name is "Your Company" these days.
> >
> > Think God that this does not happen often. In this case, it appears
even
> > more of an issue as it appears that OpenSRS has authorized this
> > (Un-confirmed) fraudulent transfer and that it is a repeated occurrence.
> >
> > Mike Allen, 4CheapDomains.Net
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > http://www.4CheapDomains.Net
> > (812) 275-8425 - Office
> > (815) 364-1278 - Fax
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> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Charles Daminato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Mike Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 3:19 PM
> > Subject: Re: hijacking, AGAIN
> >
> >
> > > We are *VERY shortly* adding a mechanism to allow administrative
contacts
> > > approve changes to registrant/admin information. While this doesn't
> > > prevent theft from names that have insecure email addresses, it's
> > > something.
> > >
> > > Charles Daminato
> > > TUCOWS Product Manager
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > > On Sat, 16 Mar 2002, Mike Allen wrote:
> > >
> > > > I hope OpenSRS's policy changes in regards to identity theft. We are
> > > > starting to get some pretty important clients from our sister
companies
> > to
> > > > us as they register literally register hundreds of domains, and if
we
> > lost a
> > > > client because OpenSRS did not quickly resolve a theft (Within a few
> > hours)
> > > > it leads me to believe that OpenSRS has a fault in their system. I
too
> > would
> > > > be pretty pissed off if this happened and we were told that we had
to
> > wait
> > > > until Monday. If this ever happens to us personally, we would have
to
> > > > consider being a Registrar instead of using OpenSRS's services. We
are a
> > > > registrar with several TLD's that SRS hasn't been selling. Opens up
some
> > > > thoughts as to whether we should start the process of becoming a
> > Registrar
> > > > with .Com/.Net/.Org/.Tv etc....
> > > >
> > > > Good Luck David, and let we know the final out come of this ordeal
and
> > the
> > > > length of time it takes for it to be resolved if you don't mind.
> > > >
> > > > What if this was Walmart.Com, I bet that would have OpenSRS in
fixing
> > the
> > > > problem in a matter of minutes...
> > > >
> > > > Mike Allen, 4CheapDomains.Net
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > http://www.4CheapDomains.Net
> > > > (812) 275-8425 - Office
> > > > (815) 364-1278 - Fax
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> > as
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> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Patrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: "Charles Daminato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Cc: "Swerve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "David Denney"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > > > "opensrs discuss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 12:55 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: hijacking, AGAIN
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > On Sat, 16 Mar 2002, Charles Daminato wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > hi-jacking is not deemed an emergency issue since our
> > compliance/dispute
> > > > > > folks will probably have to deal with it, and they don't work on
the
> > > > > > weekends (like the 24/7 support person)
> > > > >
> > > > > Wow, that sounds wrong on so many levels. Not only is it the
ultimate
> > DoS
> > > > > it's also identity theft.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
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> > > > /\
> > > > > Patrick Greenwell
> > > > > Asking the wrong questions is the leading cause of wrong
> > answers
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
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