I think what Alan was trying to say is this:

Personas are a tool for helping a team understand better who their  
key users are and what those users need from the design.

If the team already understands this, then they don't need personas.

One context where a team may already understand this is when they are  
designing for themselves. In this case, personas won't add much value.

(I wrote more about this here: http://tinyurl.com/2hpxzr )

Jared

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On Nov 16, 2007, at 9:10 AM, Jeff White wrote:

> I took it that way too, Jim.
>
> Kind of like asking a pizza guru when pizza wouldn't be the ideal meal
> to consume, and she goes "when it's not made right". :-)
>
> Jeff
>
> On Nov 16, 2007 12:43 AM, Jim Drew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> On Nov 13, 2007, at 1:24 PM, Alan Cooper wrote:
>>
>>>  The place where personas would not be useful is where the  
>>> persona is
>>> elaborate camouflage for a designer creating self-referential
>>> solutions.
>>> In other words, personas help designers design for users. When
>>> personas
>>> are used to help designers design for themselves instead, that would
>>> be bad.
>>
>> That's where poorly created personas aren't useful, not where  
>> personas
>> in general aren't useful, no?

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