Sooo you're saying the biggest issue is truculence on the administrators'
parts? ;)


On 8 April 2013 09:53, Ron <[email protected]> wrote:

> I agree - I hate it when conversations are derailed by people yelling
> "bikeshed!" or "dead horse!" - sometimes discussions are useful to have,
> even if they're long. And I typically take everybody's opinions into
> account.
>
> The biggest issue with the members mailing list is that it's a lot of
> extra work for me and/or mak to maintain, and neither of us thinks it's
> useful enough to do. :)
>
> Ron
>
> On 2013-04-08 09:16, Justin Lacko wrote:
> > I don't see the point in pointing out what is bikeshedding and what
> isn't.
> > Everyone has different concerns - even if their point isn't direct,
> they're
> > putting in the effort to try and explain their opinion and we should try
> > and respect that.
> >
> > There's probably nothing wrong with having a members-only list where
> topics
> > would be left up to the members; and having a public discuss list where
> > topics would also be left up to the members (and associated subscribers).
> >
> > I think some of the concerns of having such a list are being blown way
> out
> > of proportion. Has anything *that important* ever been discussed on the
> > mailing list? :P (I ask this half-jokingly, as I'm sure there are a few
> > topics people could think of.)
> >
> >
> > On 8 April 2013 08:43, Alex Weber <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Hurray for bikeshedding!
> > >
> > > On 04/08/13 01:56, Roswyne wrote:
> > > > Certainly: we maintain a website, blog, Flickr, Twitter, etc. to
> have a
> > > > public face.
> > > >
> > > > My question was simply: is a mailing list a good addition to that
> public
> > > > face, or are there other advantages to having a members-only list
> that we
> > > > might want to consider?
> > > >
> > > > You've mentioned many advantages to making your new list
> members-only...
> > > > yet I think that list would look better to the public than this
> one...
> > > >
> > > > On Apr 8, 2013 1:26 AM, "Mak Kolybabi" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> On 2013-04-07 22:51, Roswyne wrote:
> > > >>> What I don't understand is this urge for openness. We are a private
> > > club:
> > > >>> I'm happy we want to be open with members, but I feel no
> requirement to
> > > >> be
> > > >>> open with non-members.
> > > >>
> > > >> Being open, publicly, buys us a lot. It keeps our heads in the
> correct,
> > > >> accurate
> > > >> context. It helps us interact with the community. It helps us
> attract
> > > >> members.
> > > >> It helps us dispel the myths, prejudices, and FUD that come part and
> > > >> parcel with
> > > >> the term 'hacker'[1]. Anyone that spends half-an-hour on the
> Internet
> > > can
> > > >> get an
> > > >> accurate picture of who we are and what we're about, which is great
> > > >> marketing[2].
> > > >>
> > > >> If I could offer you only one tip for the future,
> sunscreen^wopenness
> > > >> would be it[3].
> > > >>
> > > >> [1] Not to mention the fact that we're all a bit weird.
> > > >> [2] Excuse me as I take a silkwood shower for saying the m-word.
> > > >> [3] http://www.lyricscrawler.com/song/3953.html
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> Mak Kolybabi
> > > >> <[email protected]>
> > > >>
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