Pretty much, yep. It comes down to the "if nobody wants to maintain it,
it won't happen" issue.

Of course, if somebody else knows how to manage mailman, and mak trusts
them enough, maybe it can be worked out. :P

Ron

On 2013-04-08 09:59, Justin Lacko wrote:
> Sooo you're saying the biggest issue is truculence on the administrators'
> parts? ;)
> 
> 
> On 8 April 2013 09:53, Ron <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > I agree - I hate it when conversations are derailed by people yelling
> > "bikeshed!" or "dead horse!" - sometimes discussions are useful to have,
> > even if they're long. And I typically take everybody's opinions into
> > account.
> >
> > The biggest issue with the members mailing list is that it's a lot of
> > extra work for me and/or mak to maintain, and neither of us thinks it's
> > useful enough to do. :)
> >
> > Ron
> >
> > On 2013-04-08 09:16, Justin Lacko wrote:
> > > I don't see the point in pointing out what is bikeshedding and what
> > isn't.
> > > Everyone has different concerns - even if their point isn't direct,
> > they're
> > > putting in the effort to try and explain their opinion and we should try
> > > and respect that.
> > >
> > > There's probably nothing wrong with having a members-only list where
> > topics
> > > would be left up to the members; and having a public discuss list where
> > > topics would also be left up to the members (and associated subscribers).
> > >
> > > I think some of the concerns of having such a list are being blown way
> > out
> > > of proportion. Has anything *that important* ever been discussed on the
> > > mailing list? :P (I ask this half-jokingly, as I'm sure there are a few
> > > topics people could think of.)
> > >
> > >
> > > On 8 April 2013 08:43, Alex Weber <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hurray for bikeshedding!
> > > >
> > > > On 04/08/13 01:56, Roswyne wrote:
> > > > > Certainly: we maintain a website, blog, Flickr, Twitter, etc. to
> > have a
> > > > > public face.
> > > > >
> > > > > My question was simply: is a mailing list a good addition to that
> > public
> > > > > face, or are there other advantages to having a members-only list
> > that we
> > > > > might want to consider?
> > > > >
> > > > > You've mentioned many advantages to making your new list
> > members-only...
> > > > > yet I think that list would look better to the public than this
> > one...
> > > > >
> > > > > On Apr 8, 2013 1:26 AM, "Mak Kolybabi" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> On 2013-04-07 22:51, Roswyne wrote:
> > > > >>> What I don't understand is this urge for openness. We are a private
> > > > club:
> > > > >>> I'm happy we want to be open with members, but I feel no
> > requirement to
> > > > >> be
> > > > >>> open with non-members.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Being open, publicly, buys us a lot. It keeps our heads in the
> > correct,
> > > > >> accurate
> > > > >> context. It helps us interact with the community. It helps us
> > attract
> > > > >> members.
> > > > >> It helps us dispel the myths, prejudices, and FUD that come part and
> > > > >> parcel with
> > > > >> the term 'hacker'[1]. Anyone that spends half-an-hour on the
> > Internet
> > > > can
> > > > >> get an
> > > > >> accurate picture of who we are and what we're about, which is great
> > > > >> marketing[2].
> > > > >>
> > > > >> If I could offer you only one tip for the future,
> > sunscreen^wopenness
> > > > >> would be it[3].
> > > > >>
> > > > >> [1] Not to mention the fact that we're all a bit weird.
> > > > >> [2] Excuse me as I take a silkwood shower for saying the m-word.
> > > > >> [3] http://www.lyricscrawler.com/song/3953.html
> > > > >>
> > > > >> --
> > > > >> Mak Kolybabi
> > > > >> <[email protected]>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> () ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Against HTML e-mail
> > > > >> /\  www.asciiribbon.org  | Against proprietary extensions
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