you can use the tab key in the ddialog that comes up when you press
ccommand-q.
On Sep 15, 2006, at 7:34 PM, James Austin wrote:
Hi Harry,
I too am a PC user, and it does take a little while to get used to
the way JFW and Voice Over work. So give yourself that time. Please
don't feel I'm patronising you, but i have also hadd a few of your
annoyances during my first days with Voice Over.
Okay let's see what we can do.
Well i think one of your questions was how to get the VO and active
cursorsto follow each other. If you go to the VO preferenes by
pressing command option and f8, go to the navigation pannel and if
you read the page you will find various check boxes related to the
various . cursors. I have all of these boxes checked, so that all the
cursors follow one another. VO's behaviour is affected in various
ways if you check difrent boxes.
I think you also wanted to know how to close a document. Well i
assume you want to be able to shut down the computer so after you've
finished typing in your document, you would press command q an you
would be put into a dialog box. If you explore the box, you'll find
various buttons. Don't save, cancel overwrite and save with a new
name. use the VO keys with the arrow keys to navigate to the button
you want and then use VO keys and space to click the button.
With regard to your last question, I think I'll let someone else
anser this, as I too find it difficult sometimes to edit, although it
does get easier every time i do it. But i think the thing to remember
is that if you are deleting certain letters, the cursor needs to be
after the letter you want to delete. I think JFW works differntly,
but as I say others on this list may be better at answering this
particular question.
James
"Access to communication in the widest sense is access to knowledge"
- Louis Braille 1848
----- Original Message ----- From: "Harry Bates" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS
Xby theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 9:20 PM
Subject: TextEdit and Vo
I changed the subject line to reflect the topic under discussion.
I certainly need help in using VO with TextEdit.
I have trouble editing with VO, and it seems like the VO cursor is
in one place and the active cursor is in another. What is the
command to tether the active cursor with the VO cursor?
Also when I try to shut down the computer, I am informed that the
open TextEdit program is preventing the shutdown. I am asked if I
would like to save the changes to the document, and what is the
command to say yes or no?
I am afraid my JAWS and PC habits are interfeering here, since in a
PC document all I have to do is press the "y" for yes and the "n"
key for no, then the document closes. What is the command to close
an open TE document? The command+q does not seem to be working for me.
When editing for instance removing the 2 between 123, Which number
do I focus on? Do I focus on the 1, or the 3? In a PC document
with jaws I always focus on the 2 and press the delete key, and the
2 is removed. Also if I wanted to insert a 2 between the numbers of
13 all I had to do is focus on the 3 and press the 2 and the number
is always inserted to the left of the character which has focus.
So far, the inability for me to edit text in a TE document with
consistency is driving me crazy. It seems that reading the
keyboard commands and trying to edit is not working out. I need to
be spoon fed one spoonfull at a time. Thanks for your help in this
matter.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Howell"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac
OS X by theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: iTunes' Inaccessibility and VoiceOver
As an aside, but yet related to this topic, I've noticed a very
annoying behavior with Text Edit lately that I can't quite figure
out how to really reproduce consistantly. Basically if I'm
editing a text document, I switch to lets say Mail and come back
later to Text Edit, the arrow keys will not read the text any
longer. Its almost as though the Edit area is locked from me
reading it with the regular cursor, but yet I can read it fine by
navigating it with VO. It actually appears as though its locked
as I can't seem to edit anything. Only quiting Text Edit resolve
the problem. No matter if I bring the cursors together or turn VO
on/off has no affect. Has anyone else noticed this?
tnx
Scott
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