Ok Josh, which would you rather do, hae to interact with something
every time you want to read it or just read or skip it? With grouped
mode, I have to use the poor group constructs to look over the page
and pickthe best one and this after the page loads slowly and I've
gone through the tedium of navigating the page with vo. In either
mode, I can tab throuh the page, get lists of links, find stuff by
eement type and jump through elements I think I cn do this in group
mode anyway. In any event, when I am in dom mode and find something I
want to read, I can just press vo-a and begin reading and yes, it
won't read the whole thing, but neither do I have to open and close
groups. What am I missing?
On Apr 14, 2008, at 12:15 PM, Josh de Lioncourt wrote:
On 14 Apr, 2008, at 8:28 AM, David Poehlman wrote:
I understand how it works ad in principle, it is fine. I just find
it much slower and more complex than dom nav. perhaps if more
people understood dom nav, they'd use it instead becaust it's a lot
less work.
I totally disagree. DOM mode with VO has all the same problems that
it does with Window-Eyes or Jaws. I've used both modes. DOM
navigation requires more navigation, gives a less accurate
representation of the page, and requires far more arrowing around. I
suspect if you did a survey, you'd likely find that most users are
using DOM mode, not Grouped, because it is so much like what they've
become accustomed to in Windows. I'm sure you understand the concept
behind grouped navigation, but I don't think you fully understand the
best ways of utilizing it to your advantage while browsing. Everyone
will have a different opinion why they like one over the other, but as
a matter of sheer practicality, it is very difficult to make an
argument that DOM mode is more efficient than grouped.
I'd like to hear what others are using and why, and how many have
actually learned to use Grouped mode in depth.
Josh de Lioncourt
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