Hi David,
What you're missing is that you don't need to interact with groups to
read them. As you navigate through the page, VoiceOver reads each
group in its entirety when you navigate to it, without interaction.
Let's look at an example.
Go to this link:
http://www.lioncourt.com/2008/04/11/the-mac-cessibility-podcast-1-the-pilot/
In DOM mode, use VO-Command-H to read the heading of the article, "The
Mac-cessibility Podcast #1 - The PIlot".
Arrow to the first paragraph. It takes eleven arrow presses to read
the first paragraph. VO-A only reads a fragment at a time.
Now with Grouped mode.
Use VO-Command-H to reach the same heading. Now use VO-Down arrow to
read down through the article. One key stroke puts you on and reads
the entire first paragraph. One versus eleven key presses. Guess
which is more efficient? *smile* If you want to activate a link, then
you interact with the paragraph and choose the link.
Hope this helps you out. DOM mode is a messy disaster on any platform.
Josh de Lioncourt
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On 14 Apr, 2008, at 9:44 AM, David Poehlman wrote:
Ok Josh, which would you rather do, hae to interact with something
every time you want to read it or just read or skip it? With
grouped mode, I have to use the poor group constructs to look over
the page and pickthe best one and this after the page loads slowly
and I've gone through the tedium of navigating the page with vo. In
either mode, I can tab throuh the page, get lists of links, find
stuff by eement type and jump through elements I think I cn do this
in group mode anyway. In any event, when I am in dom mode and find
something I want to read, I can just press vo-a and begin reading
and yes, it won't read the whole thing, but neither do I have to
open and close groups. What am I missing?