Hi David,

What you're missing is that you don't need to interact with groups to read them. As you navigate through the page, VoiceOver reads each group in its entirety when you navigate to it, without interaction. Let's look at an example.

Go to this link:

http://www.lioncourt.com/2008/04/11/the-mac-cessibility-podcast-1-the-pilot/

In DOM mode, use VO-Command-H to read the heading of the article, "The Mac-cessibility Podcast #1 - The PIlot".

Arrow to the first paragraph. It takes eleven arrow presses to read the first paragraph. VO-A only reads a fragment at a time.

Now with Grouped mode.

Use VO-Command-H to reach the same heading. Now use VO-Down arrow to read down through the article. One key stroke puts you on and reads the entire first paragraph. One versus eleven key presses. Guess which is more efficient? *smile* If you want to activate a link, then you interact with the paragraph and choose the link.

Hope this helps you out.  DOM mode is a messy disaster on any platform.

Josh de Lioncourt
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On 14 Apr, 2008, at 9:44 AM, David Poehlman wrote:

Ok Josh, which would you rather do, hae to interact with something every time you want to read it or just read or skip it? With grouped mode, I have to use the poor group constructs to look over the page and pickthe best one and this after the page loads slowly and I've gone through the tedium of navigating the page with vo. In either mode, I can tab throuh the page, get lists of links, find stuff by eement type and jump through elements I think I cn do this in group mode anyway. In any event, when I am in dom mode and find something I want to read, I can just press vo-a and begin reading and yes, it won't read the whole thing, but neither do I have to open and close groups. What am I missing?

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