And what am I being? We were talking about sources. if someone bus ou something ou know nothing about, they have an obligation to provide you with that guidance. that is the resource so you cannot categorically state that you "have no resources".
----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Gilland Desktop" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS Xby theblind" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 9:30 AM Subject: Re: Apple Store bad experiences Call me boistrace but, in hypotheticness, I did, David, and she told me what you're being. David, be honest? Do you like being on this list? Dont' answer that. Chris. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Poehlman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS Xby theblind" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 7:32 AM Subject: Re: Apple Store bad experiences > talk to your daughter. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris Gilland Desktop" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS Xby > theblind" <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 9:14 PM > Subject: Re: Apple Store bad experiences > > > O, I never said we don't have the resources, but, the thing is, what if > the > only system you got is a Mac, and you don't know how to browse the web, > you > know nothing about computers, your a senior sitizen, not that I am one, > but, > let's just say I was, I wouldn't know what the vo keys were if it shot up > and bit me, etc. Now, if you tell these people well, the resources are! > available to you: ok, great, so, tell me how to access 'em, on this new > system, that I know nothing at all about. I've never used computers > before, > my daughter just bought me this thing so I could keep in touch with the > kids... Ya know one a those kind a people. No, I don't think Apple needs > to know every! stinkin! thing, about voiceover, but I think they need to > at > least! know the basics enough to show individuals like this how to go > about > finding the info etc. At the very! least, they need to know about > vo+command+F8, and that is bare minimum. > > Chris. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Scott Howell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by > theblind" <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 7:18 PM > Subject: Re: Apple Store bad experiences > > >> Chris, my only argument here is that first you have the resources to >> find >> out some of this info on your own in advance. Secondly and we have to be >> honest here, there is a lot they are expected to know in order to sell >> something to the majority of users. I bet you could count the number of >> those who are blind or visually impaired that have come into an Apple >> store specifically looking for a Mac and VoiceOver. Does it make it >> right? No, but reality is that unless you have a lot of folks coming in >> asking about this VOiceOver thing, they aren't going to have a lot of >> need to learn all there is. Again, doesn't make it right and in some >> ways >> it doesn't make it wrong, it's just a matter of time and demographics. >> If >> you have a great deal of demand for this product etc. your more likely >> to >> learn or need to learn it. Additionally most the actual sales people >> only >> need to know the basics to move product, not be experts. Hopefully this >> makes some sense. >> >> > > > >
