Wow, John, you hit the nail on the head as it were. I'm sure we'll take a bit of heat, but some of you just haven't been around long enough to understand fully the history and if you do understand, you'll appreciate where we were verses where we are. Honestly, I've been doing this computing thing for over twenty years and although I make no claims to be an expert, I've seen a lot, done a lot, and dealt with a wide variety of people. Of course I'm limiting this to computers, but even as John has pointed out, even going to a local plumbing store, you can encounter the same issues.

On Sep 22, 2008, at 12:45 PM, John Panarese wrote:

Hi Scott,
This makes perfect sense to me. For those who have not been on the list as long as some of us, this topic has come up from time to time in the past and, usually, is done so constructively and without the accompaniment of fire starting to make it into an issue of global economic proportions.

The idea that Greg Kearney has posed on a number of occasions, which I think makes the most sense, is Apple appointing an Accessibility "Guru" or "evangelist", or whatever title one would like to utilize. This individual would have the job of both setting up a central area where accessibility questions and support would be addressed as well as arranging for demonstrations and presentations for both blindness agencies and local Apple stores.. Greg, if he wishes, can provide additional details, as I am really lumping it altogether in a brief summary.

The other aspect to this is to try to be a bit more realistic in ones ideas and expectations. Like any other retail store, Apple stores hire local people looking for jobs and what such employees are taught or what training they are given is probably not enough to cover every product and every aspect of every product. If Richy is still on the list, since he does work for an Apple Store in Alaska, he is probably better suited to talk about this matter.

Should the staff know a little something about VoiceOver if a blind person or other interested individual comes into the store asking about it? Of course, but walk into any retail computer store and ask questions about JAWS or Window-Eyes or even ask more technical questions about specific mainstream software and you will have the same results. And yes, since I have been involved in contracting hell for the last fourteen months now, I can tell you that walking into a plumbing store and asking the clerk specific questions a contractor needs to know about does not garner one a ready answer. Believe me when I tell you, knowledge about products being sold in a store, regardless of how specialized that store might be, is not a given by any means.

Take Care

John D. Panarese
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