I too noticed the sign on the rack the other day, and though I was not offended by it, I was surprised. I considered the source and took it as the joke it was intended as. The same can probably be said for Ben and his joke. I am not saying any of this is not hurtful, I just don't believe any of it is coming from a place of hatred. Bigotry stems from ignorance, intolerance, and low intellect. I do not know Ben but I would guess he is none of these things. His joke was not well received and he was quickly and righteously set straight. I have found myself in a similar situations and though I was beyond embarrassed by how I acted or what I said, I have found that a quick and sincere apology is the best thing.
The point I want to make is though I recognize tolerance of differences is important, I don't want to work or play in an environment that is uptight. I don't want to walk on egg shells when I talk or hang out. I want to have fun. If I cross a line, a direct response telling me that is too far will receive a direct apology, and I will not go there again. Please strive to be respectful to everyone but at the same time please don't make the place stuffy with oversensitivity. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 15, 2013, at 8:21 AM, "Seeley, Tim (PSA-Akron)" > <[email protected]> wrote: > > I too am a not-yet-member, who is considering SYNHAK as a place to spend some > time, meet some new people, learn some new skills, and work on my pet > projects. I fully support the goal of respecting and being excellent to all > regardless of the differences in how we choose to live out our personal > lives. Therefore I would like to request two things. First that we add > religious preference to the list of things we strive to respect about each > other. Second that we remove the attempt at humor on the sales rack calling > it a god. > > V/R > Tim Seeley > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of alex kot > Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 5:47 AM > To: SYN/HAK discussion list > Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] New mailing list: power-racing-series > > Thanks Torrie, Philip, and Xander for your input. Just to elaborate more > onto this. Syn/Hak is a community for open minded individuals. The space > does not condone to judging sexual preference, race, gender, and > disabilities. By chance this was just one of those internet references that > was not in context of judging someones sexual preference, be leery that > everyone may not get those references. Try to be politically correct and > most importantly respectful of other people, after all this is a public email > listing. > > > On Thursday, November 14, 2013 9:38 PM, Alexander Golightley > <[email protected]> wrote: > Torrie, thank you. Seriously. I couldn't support your decision more than I do > now. > > As another non-heteronormative member of the LGBT community, I deal with > bigoted crap enough day to day. I don't need to deal with it in the > organization I love so dearly. I think actions like this are the only way to > show that this type of bigotry is unacceptable. I'm delighted to be part of > an organization that feels the same way (although I am in no way surprised by > this. I think very highly of the people involved in SYN/HAK.) > > -Xander > > > > On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 9:20 PM, Philip P. Patnode <[email protected]> wrote: > TWIMC and Torrie Fischer, > > As an outsider and non-member, who is considering SYNHAK as a place to spend > some time, meet some new people, learn some new skills, and work on my pet > projects, I want to state that I fully support Torrie Fischer's reaction to > the astonishing email from BL containing an obvious slur against a group of > people who deserve to be treated as equals in all respects, at all times. > > Homophobic slurs are unwanted, unnecessary, embarrassing, and totally devoid > of substance. Even one as silly as the one in BL's email reply - is out of > place in our civilized society. Comments like that have no place in the > organization and must be suppressed with prejudice immediately. > > I hope that the members of SYNHAK will agree with Torrie and support her. > > Sincerely, > > PPP > > > On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 9:06 PM, Torrie Fischer <[email protected]> > wrote: > On Thursday, November 14, 2013 20:28:58 Ben Lippincott wrote: > > Ha! Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay! > > Hello, friend. > > It seems that you have tried to introduce a smidgen of immature humor into a > public mailing list. As a non-heteronormative member of the LGBT community, I > must say that I am disgusted with your behavior. Thoroughly disgusted, in > fact. I will admit this: SYNHAK is essentially a very large community of > technical children who somehow managed to pull together enough collaborative > effort to give birth to something wonderful in the City of Invention. > > Irrespective of that, we give each other the full respect that each of us is > due. Using "gay" in such a manner shows a disappointing lack of respect from > you. > > As Champion of SYNHAK, it is my duty to ensure that SYNHAK is constantly > moving in a direction in accordance with our mission statement, which I've > included here from our bylaws for reference: > > SYN/HAK provides an environment for people to educate, create, and share > amongst themselves and others within the domains of technology, art and > science. > > -- http://static.synhak.org/documents/latex/bylaws.pdf > > > It is my belief that in order to secure such an environment, upholding the > first rule of the space is of utmost important. Again, i've included it here > for reference: > > 1. Be excellent to each other. > > -- http://static.synhak.org/documents/latex/space-rules.pdf > > With the powers vested in me as documented through our bylaws and given to me > through my re-election to the position of SYNHAK Champion by the membership of > this community, I hereby declare that you were not acting in accordance with > our mission statement. That is to say, you are not acting Excellent. > > I recommend that you cease this behavior immediately. Do not pass go. Do not > collect $200. Do not send another mail to this community or further action > will be taken to exclude you and your behavior from it. > > > > > On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 11:59 AM, codex codices <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I tried to subscribe and it says that I must enter a valid email address. > > > Its the same address I use for the other mailing lists. > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 8:18 PM, Torrie Fischer > <[email protected]>wrote: > > >> Howdy, all. > > >> > > >> At the request of Devin, I've created a new list: > > >> > > >> [email protected] > > >> > > >> Subscribe here: https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/power-racing-series > > >> > > >> It is intended for use in facilitating discussions about the power wheel > > >> racing series project, aka the big pink Power Wheels car and nearby > > >> tractor > > >> chassis in the front of the space. I've added Devin as the primary list > > >> owner, > > >> with [email protected] as the backup. > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Discuss mailing list > > >> [email protected] > > >> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Discuss mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > [email protected] > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > [email protected] > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > [email protected] > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > [email protected] > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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