While we are sharing, the circuit church literature uses Christian imagery in a mocking fashion. Synhak and its members should be careful mocking minority and majority groups. Jeff On Nov 15, 2013 1:08 PM, "Bethany Munyan" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Torrie, I can understand how the sign came off as offensive. It goes > against the grain of Christian values to say there is another God. I > however agree with Robert, I think we should just relax a little. I am > sure Ben is sorry for what he said. We can't change what happened, we can > only change what happens next. I am not saying it wasn't hurtful, it just > needs to be let go now. -Beth > > > On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Robert Rybicki <[email protected] > > wrote: > >> I too noticed the sign on the rack the other day, and though I was not >> offended by it, I was surprised. I considered the source and took it as the >> joke it was intended as. The same can probably be said for Ben and his >> joke. I am not saying any of this is not hurtful, I just don't believe any >> of it is coming from a place of hatred. Bigotry stems from ignorance, >> intolerance, and low intellect. I do not know Ben but I would guess he is >> none of these things. His joke was not well received and he was quickly and >> righteously set straight. I have found myself in a similar situations and >> though I was beyond embarrassed by how I acted or what I said, I have found >> that a quick and sincere apology is the best thing. >> >> The point I want to make is though I recognize tolerance of differences >> is important, I don't want to work or play in an environment that is >> uptight. I don't want to walk on egg shells when I talk or hang out. I want >> to have fun. If I cross a line, a direct response telling me that is too >> far will receive a direct apology, and I will not go there again. Please >> strive to be respectful to everyone but at the same time please don't make >> the place stuffy with oversensitivity. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Nov 15, 2013, at 8:21 AM, "Seeley, Tim (PSA-Akron)" < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> I too am a not-yet-member, who is considering SYNHAK as a place to >> spend some time, meet some new people, learn some new skills, and work on >> my pet projects. I fully support the goal of respecting and being >> excellent to all regardless of the differences in how we choose to live out >> our personal lives. Therefore I would like to request two things. First >> that we add religious preference to the list of things we strive to respect >> about each other. Second that we remove the attempt at humor on the sales >> rack calling it a god. >> >> >> >> V/R >> >> Tim Seeley >> >> >> >> *From:* [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]<[email protected]>] >> *On Behalf Of *alex kot >> *Sent:* Friday, November 15, 2013 5:47 AM >> *To:* SYN/HAK discussion list >> *Subject:* Re: [SH-Discuss] New mailing list: power-racing-series >> >> >> >> Thanks Torrie, Philip, and Xander for your input. Just to elaborate more >> onto this. Syn/Hak is a community for open minded individuals. The space >> does not condone to judging sexual preference, race, gender, and >> disabilities. By chance this was just one of those internet references >> that was not in context of judging someones sexual preference, be leery >> that everyone may not get those references. Try to be politically correct >> and most importantly respectful of other people, after all this is a public >> email listing. >> >> >> >> On Thursday, November 14, 2013 9:38 PM, Alexander Golightley < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> Torrie, thank you. Seriously. I couldn't support your decision more than >> I do now. >> >> >> >> As another non-heteronormative member of the LGBT community, I deal with >> bigoted crap enough day to day. I don't need to deal with it in the >> organization I love so dearly. I think actions like this are the only way >> to show that this type of bigotry is unacceptable. I'm delighted to be part >> of an organization that feels the same way (although I am in no way >> surprised by this. I think very highly of the people involved in SYN/HAK.) >> >> >> >> -Xander >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 9:20 PM, Philip P. Patnode <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> TWIMC and Torrie Fischer, >> >> >> >> As an outsider and non-member, who is considering SYNHAK as a place to >> spend some time, meet some new people, learn some new skills, and work on >> my pet projects, I want to state that I fully support Torrie Fischer's >> reaction to the astonishing email from BL containing an obvious slur >> against a group of people who deserve to be treated as equals in all >> respects, at all times. >> >> >> >> Homophobic slurs are unwanted, unnecessary, embarrassing, and totally >> devoid of substance. Even one as silly as the one in BL's email reply - is >> out of place in our civilized society. Comments like that have no place in >> the organization and must be suppressed with prejudice immediately. >> >> >> >> I hope that the members of SYNHAK will agree with Torrie and support her. >> >> >> >> Sincerely, >> >> >> >> PPP >> >> >> >> On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 9:06 PM, Torrie Fischer <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> On Thursday, November 14, 2013 20:28:58 Ben Lippincott wrote: >> > Ha! Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay! >> >> Hello, friend. >> >> It seems that you have tried to introduce a smidgen of immature humor >> into a >> public mailing list. As a non-heteronormative member of the LGBT >> community, I >> must say that I am disgusted with your behavior. Thoroughly disgusted, in >> fact. I will admit this: SYNHAK is essentially a very large community of >> technical children who somehow managed to pull together enough >> collaborative >> effort to give birth to something wonderful in the City of Invention. >> >> Irrespective of that, we give each other the full respect that each of us >> is >> due. Using "gay" in such a manner shows a disappointing lack of respect >> from >> you. >> >> As Champion of SYNHAK, it is my duty to ensure that SYNHAK is constantly >> moving in a direction in accordance with our mission statement, which I've >> included here from our bylaws for reference: >> >> SYN/HAK provides an environment for people to educate, create, and >> share >> amongst themselves and others within the domains of technology, art >> and >> science. >> >> -- http://static.synhak.org/documents/latex/bylaws.pdf >> >> >> It is my belief that in order to secure such an environment, upholding the >> first rule of the space is of utmost important. Again, i've included it >> here >> for reference: >> >> 1. Be excellent to each other. >> >> -- http://static.synhak.org/documents/latex/space-rules.pdf >> >> With the powers vested in me as documented through our bylaws and given >> to me >> through my re-election to the position of SYNHAK Champion by the >> membership of >> this community, I hereby declare that you were not acting in accordance >> with >> our mission statement. That is to say, you are not acting Excellent. >> >> I recommend that you cease this behavior immediately. Do not pass go. Do >> not >> collect $200. Do not send another mail to this community or further action >> will be taken to exclude you and your behavior from it. >> >> > >> > On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 11:59 AM, codex codices <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > > I tried to subscribe and it says that I must enter a valid email >> address. >> > > Its the same address I use for the other mailing lists. >> > > >> > > On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 8:18 PM, Torrie Fischer >> <[email protected]>wrote: >> > >> Howdy, all. >> > >> >> > >> At the request of Devin, I've created a new list: >> > >> >> > >> [email protected] >> > >> >> > >> Subscribe here: >> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/power-racing-series >> > >> >> > >> It is intended for use in facilitating discussions about the power >> wheel >> > >> racing series project, aka the big pink Power Wheels car and nearby >> > >> tractor >> > >> chassis in the front of the space. 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