On Apr 8, 2014, at 7:16 PM, Scott Kitterman <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 08, 2014 16:45:52 Matt Simerson wrote: >> On Apr 8, 2014, at 4:35 PM, Scott Kitterman <[email protected]> wrote: >>> On April 8, 2014 7:28:53 PM EDT, Matt Simerson <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> On Apr 8, 2014, at 4:11 PM, Scott Kitterman <[email protected]> >>>> >>>> wrote: >>>>> Okay. I'll bite. >>>>> >>>>> For what I think of as a normal mailing list that uses its own mail >>>>> from and does DKIM signature breaking things like modifying the subject >>>>> line or adding a footer to the message with unsubscribe or list archive >>>>> information, what's the canonical solution to interoperating in a DMARC >>>>> with p=reject enabled world and where is it documented? >>>> >>>> http://dmarc.org/faq.html#s_3 >>>> >>>> • take ownership of the email, by removing the DKIM signature and >>>> >>>> putting your own as well as changing the from header in the email to >>>> contain an email address within your mailing list domain. >>> >>> In other words: don't be a mailing list. >> >> That's one perspective. Another is: >> >> cd path/to/ezmlm/list; rm prefix text/trailer addtrailer >> >> and go on with being a mailing list. > > Right. So then we train people that the "right" way to figure out to > unsubscribe or locate the list archive is to look in the message headers for > the correct header field (unsigned by the domain in From, BTW) and then > copy/paste whatever's there into their browser. > > Works for me just fine. Actual non-technical users, not so much. It's been 30 years Scott. We're *still* training users to find that message trailer at the bottom and click on the unsubscribe link. Their attention span rarely survives a full screen of text, so they practically never see the trailer. Instead they *reply* to an email with a "how do I unsubscribe" question, placing the answer they seek even further down the screen than they'll ever notice. Obviously I've made my choice, but you too can make yours and keep putting that seldom-if-ever read trailer on your list messages. You just need to take ownership of the message, as described in the FAQ. Matt _______________________________________________ dmarc-discuss mailing list [email protected] http://www.dmarc.org/mailman/listinfo/dmarc-discuss NOTE: Participating in this list means you agree to the DMARC Note Well terms (http://www.dmarc.org/note_well.html)
