I am curious. Did you miss the update that was done via the remote Hamvention a 
few weeks ago. Group 1 clears in May?? Is your communication comment based on 
lack of website info? Customer’s that paid (me) should get emails every week??  
I feel like I have been kept in the loop. That’s quite different than being 
over joyed by a delay...

> On Mar 30, 2021, at 2:33 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> It is puzzling to see the lack of substantive information as other have 
> posted.  This has not been how Wayne and Eric and Elecraft have operated in 
> the past.
> 
> I don't believe it is asking too much for regular updates on delivery dates.
> 
> Just because some are not happy with a delay does not mean that tehy don't 
> want the product.  This radio is a lot of money for many people.  I doubt 
> they are doing so well that they can afford to chase off a portion of their 
> business.  It cost far more to bring in new customers than it does to keep 
> old ones.
> 
> W0MU
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 3/30/2021 2:18 PM, Hal Massey wrote:
>> David,
>> 
>> Is the customer set you are referring to and claiming to be sympathetic too 
>> even in existence? Elecraft will refund money to anyone that asks. Wouldn’t 
>> those that can’t have their money tied up have pulled out by now? Wouldn’t 
>> those that are upset with the communications be gone by now??
>> 
>> Regards
>> -Hal
>> 
>>> On Mar 30, 2021, at 10:51 AM, David Gilbert <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> As the kids say, "cool story, bro."
>>> 
>>> None of it changes the fact that lots of people have put out a lot of money 
>>> with almost zero visibility into when they will get their product, and the 
>>> K4 situation doesn't have the significantly leveraged upside that your 
>>> story did.  There isn't the same risk/reward ratio here that your example 
>>> had.  Apples and potatoes.
>>> 
>>> There are lots of reasons why Elecraft could be granted some slack for 
>>> major and repeated delays in shipping the K4, but the part I don't 
>>> understand is the almost total absence of regular communication on the 
>>> delivery status.  It makes no sense at all.  If Wayne can find the time to 
>>> tell us about his latest pedestrian mobile contact he should be able to 
>>> tell his investors where the company stands on actually producing the 
>>> product that they paid for.
>>> 
>>> I'm just an interested observer here since I haven't ordered a K4, but that 
>>> doesn't change the fact that I sympathize with those who did.
>>> 
>>> Dave  AB7E
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 3/30/2021 8:55 AM, Lyn Norstad wrote:
>>>> I can’t imagine how it would feel to know that I had laid out $4k two 
>>>> years ago, and still be waiting for fulfillment.  NO, actually I can.
>>>> 
>>>>  Several years ago, an up-and-coming system integration business I had 
>>>> been associated with for several years (as a VAR) was going thru many of 
>>>> the same types of growing pains in bringing a wonderful new product to 
>>>> market.  The CEO vowed he would run the business as if they were broke, 
>>>> which they very nearly were.  But the employees were faithful believers in 
>>>> the company and the product, and worked very hard to make it a success.
>>>> 
>>>>  Early one Monday morning, I had a call from that CEO advising me that 
>>>> they had sold the company to another industry player (a non-competitor) 
>>>> and that they wanted me to join them for lunch to discuss the deal. My 
>>>> fear and trepidation slowly disappeared that day as I met the new 
>>>> management “team” (with all the old R&D team still hard at work), got 
>>>> viable answers to all the hard questions and quickly recognized how an 
>>>> immediate cash infusion ($10 Million) had an amazing ability to totally 
>>>> turn things around, grease the wheels, and create an industry shakeup that 
>>>> precipitated a wave of further consolidation and rapid development.
>>>> 
>>>>  It was a win-win situation born out of the impending potential disaster 
>>>> we had all feared.
>>>> 
>>>>  Hang in there.  Times might seem tough, but there are some very smart 
>>>> people at work here.
>>>> 
>>>>  73
>>>> 
>>>> Lyn, W0LEN
>>>> 
>>>>  From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
>>>> Ted Roycraft
>>>> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 4:44 PM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K4] Where are the K4 reviews?
>>>> 
>>>>  The natives are getting restless and it would be good to hear something 
>>>> official from Elecraft.  It's been too long since we've heard much of 
>>>> anything.  I would like to know if I can expect my Group 1 order, 
>>>> submitted on August 8, 2019, has any chance of getting to me before 
>>>> summer, 2021 begins or is it likely that I will have to wait another year. 
>>>>  I could have asked much the same question a year ago never expecting that 
>>>> a year from then, there would still be no K4 sitting on my table by now.  
>>>> By the way, when I submitted my order the expected shipping date was 
>>>> estimated to be November or December, 2019. That's pre-pandemic.
>>>> 
>>>> 73, Ted, W2ZK
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