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> On Mar 30, 2021, at 2:57 PM, David Gilbert <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > If you believe all of that to be true, clearly you haven't been following the > posts here on the reflector. > > Besides, I don't find "if you can't accept being in the dark ask for your > money back" to be sound business practice. It certainly wouldn't have been > tolerated in the large business I ran for several years. > > Dave AB7E > > > > On 3/30/2021 1:18 PM, Hal Massey wrote: >> David, >> >> Is the customer set you are referring to and claiming to be sympathetic too >> even in existence? Elecraft will refund money to anyone that asks. Wouldn’t >> those that can’t have their money tied up have pulled out by now? Wouldn’t >> those that are upset with the communications be gone by now?? >> >> Regards >> -Hal >> >>> On Mar 30, 2021, at 10:51 AM, David Gilbert <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> As the kids say, "cool story, bro." >>> >>> None of it changes the fact that lots of people have put out a lot of money >>> with almost zero visibility into when they will get their product, and the >>> K4 situation doesn't have the significantly leveraged upside that your >>> story did. There isn't the same risk/reward ratio here that your example >>> had. Apples and potatoes. >>> >>> There are lots of reasons why Elecraft could be granted some slack for >>> major and repeated delays in shipping the K4, but the part I don't >>> understand is the almost total absence of regular communication on the >>> delivery status. It makes no sense at all. If Wayne can find the time to >>> tell us about his latest pedestrian mobile contact he should be able to >>> tell his investors where the company stands on actually producing the >>> product that they paid for. >>> >>> I'm just an interested observer here since I haven't ordered a K4, but that >>> doesn't change the fact that I sympathize with those who did. >>> >>> Dave AB7E >>> >>> >>> >>> On 3/30/2021 8:55 AM, Lyn Norstad wrote: >>>> I can’t imagine how it would feel to know that I had laid out $4k two >>>> years ago, and still be waiting for fulfillment. NO, actually I can. >>>> >>>> >>>> Several years ago, an up-and-coming system integration business I had been >>>> associated with for several years (as a VAR) was going thru many of the >>>> same types of growing pains in bringing a wonderful new product to market. >>>> The CEO vowed he would run the business as if they were broke, which they >>>> very nearly were. But the employees were faithful believers in the >>>> company and the product, and worked very hard to make it a success. >>>> >>>> >>>> Early one Monday morning, I had a call from that CEO advising me that they >>>> had sold the company to another industry player (a non-competitor) and >>>> that they wanted me to join them for lunch to discuss the deal. My fear >>>> and trepidation slowly disappeared that day as I met the new management >>>> “team” (with all the old R&D team still hard at work), got viable answers >>>> to all the hard questions and quickly recognized how an immediate cash >>>> infusion ($10 Million) had an amazing ability to totally turn things >>>> around, grease the wheels, and create an industry shakeup that >>>> precipitated a wave of further consolidation and rapid development. >>>> >>>> >>>> It was a win-win situation born out of the impending potential disaster we >>>> had all feared. >>>> >>>> >>>> Hang in there. Times might seem tough, but there are some very smart >>>> people at work here. >>>> >>>> >>>> 73 >>>> >>>> Lyn, W0LEN >>>> >>>> >>>> From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of >>>> Ted Roycraft >>>> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 4:44 PM >>>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K4] Where are the K4 reviews? >>>> >>>> >>>> The natives are getting restless and it would be good to hear something >>>> official from Elecraft. It's been too long since we've heard much of >>>> anything. I would like to know if I can expect my Group 1 order, >>>> submitted on August 8, 2019, has any chance of getting to me before >>>> summer, 2021 begins or is it likely that I will have to wait another year. >>>> I could have asked much the same question a year ago never expecting that >>>> a year from then, there would still be no K4 sitting on my table by now. >>>> By the way, when I submitted my order the expected shipping date was >>>> estimated to be November or December, 2019. That's pre-pandemic. >>>> >>>> 73, Ted, W2ZK >>>> >>>> ______________________________________________________________ >>>> Elecraft mailing list >>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>>> <http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft> >>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm <http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm> >>>> Post: mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> >>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net <http://www.qsl.net/> >>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>>> <http://www.qsl.net/donate.html> >>>> Message delivered to [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> <http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft> >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm <http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm> >>> Post: mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net <http://www.qsl.net/> >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> <http://www.qsl.net/donate.html> >>> Message delivered to [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[email protected] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [email protected]
