Maybe Eric should just say…….. Life with the corona virus has delayed everything by One Year, So it is with the Delivery of the K4 ! I am sure You would not Accept or be Happy Either ! Ray WA6VAB K3
From: David Gilbert Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2021 2:38 PM To: Hal Massey Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Where are the K4 reviews? If you believe all of that to be true, clearly you haven't been following the posts here on the reflector. Besides, I don't find "if you can't accept being in the dark ask for your money back" to be sound business practice. It certainly wouldn't have been tolerated in the large business I ran for several years. Dave AB7E On 3/30/2021 1:18 PM, Hal Massey wrote: > David, > > Is the customer set you are referring to and claiming to be > sympathetic too even in existence? Elecraft will refund money to > anyone that asks. Wouldn’t those that can’t have their money tied up > have pulled out by now? Wouldn’t those that are upset with the > communications be gone by now?? > > Regards > -Hal > >> On Mar 30, 2021, at 10:51 AM, David Gilbert <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> >> As the kids say, "cool story, bro." >> >> None of it changes the fact that lots of people have put out a lot of >> money with almost zero visibility into when they will get their >> product, and the K4 situation doesn't have the significantly >> leveraged upside that your story did. There isn't the same >> risk/reward ratio here that your example had. Apples and potatoes. >> >> There are lots of reasons why Elecraft could be granted some slack >> for major and repeated delays in shipping the K4, but the part I >> don't understand is the almost total absence of regular communication >> on the delivery status. It makes no sense at all. If Wayne can find >> the time to tell us about his latest pedestrian mobile contact he >> should be able to tell his investors where the company stands on >> actually producing the product that they paid for. >> >> I'm just an interested observer here since I haven't ordered a K4, >> but that doesn't change the fact that I sympathize with those who did. >> >> Dave AB7E >> >> >> >> On 3/30/2021 8:55 AM, Lyn Norstad wrote: >>> I can’t imagine how it would feel to know that I had laid out $4k >>> two years ago, and still be waiting for fulfillment. NO, actually I >>> can. >>> >>> >>> Several years ago, an up-and-coming system integration business I >>> had been associated with for several years (as a VAR) was going thru >>> many of the same types of growing pains in bringing a wonderful new >>> product to market. The CEO vowed he would run the business as if >>> they were broke, which they very nearly were. But the employees >>> were faithful believers in the company and the product, and worked >>> very hard to make it a success. >>> >>> >>> Early one Monday morning, I had a call from that CEO advising me >>> that they had sold the company to another industry player (a >>> non-competitor) and that they wanted me to join them for lunch to >>> discuss the deal. My fear and trepidation slowly disappeared that >>> day as I met the new management “team” (with all the old R&D team >>> still hard at work), got viable answers to all the hard questions >>> and quickly recognized how an immediate cash infusion ($10 Million) >>> had an amazing ability to totally turn things around, grease the >>> wheels, and create an industry shakeup that precipitated a wave of >>> further consolidation and rapid development. >>> >>> >>> It was a win-win situation born out of the impending potential >>> disaster we had all feared. >>> >>> >>> Hang in there. Times might seem tough, but there are some very >>> smart people at work here. >>> >>> >>> 73 >>> >>> Lyn, W0LEN >>> >>> >>> From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>] On >>> Behalf Of Ted Roycraft >>> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 4:44 PM >>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K4] Where are the K4 reviews? >>> >>> >>> The natives are getting restless and it would be good to hear >>> something official from Elecraft. It's been too long since we've >>> heard much of anything. I would like to know if I can expect my >>> Group 1 order, submitted on August 8, 2019, has any chance of >>> getting to me before summer, 2021 begins or is it likely that I will >>> have to wait another year. I could have asked much the same >>> question a year ago never expecting that a year from then, there >>> would still be no K4 sitting on my table by now. By the way, when I >>> submitted my order the expected shipping date was estimated to be >>> November or December, 2019. That's pre-pandemic. >>> >>> 73, Ted, W2ZK >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> <http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft> >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> <http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm> >>> Post: mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net <http://www.qsl.net> >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> <http://www.qsl.net/donate.html> >>> Message delivered [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home:http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> <http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft> >> Help:http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm <http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm> >> Post:mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> >> This list hosted by:http://www.qsl.net <http://www.qsl.net/> >> Please help support this email list:http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> <http://www.qsl.net/donate.html> >> Message delivered [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[email protected] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [email protected] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[email protected] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [email protected]
