Tom, please read the last part. Going to a 10.7 mm drill for M12 x 1.5
is a good move, and may fix the problem.

On 23.01.16 11:48, andy pugh wrote:
> On 23 January 2016 at 11:28, Erik Christiansen <dva...@internode.on.net> 
> wrote:
> >
> >> The OSG online tool recommends a 27/64” (10.7mm) drill, so I am very
> >> close (0.008” difference).
> >
> > That only gives 60% thread engagement, if counting on my fingers is
> > working for me.

I was wrong there, see below.

> Most digital calipers seem to have a table on the back. Mine says
> 10.2mm for M12 x 1.75
> (Which is no help, as this is M12 x 1.5)
> M10 x 1.5 is given as 8.5, which ties in well with the 10.5mm
> suggested for M12 x 1.5.

This is what I use:

   ----------------------------------------------------
   Metric Coarse              | BS 4168 Clearance hole:
    |                         |      Type of fit:
   Size     Drill  E    Core  |  Close Medium   Free
   ---------------------------------------------------- 
   M2       1.70  61%   1.51  |
   M2.5     2.15  63%   1.95  |                       WARNING:
   M3       2.60  65%   2.39  |  3.2   3.4      3.6   2.5mm drill -> 82%.
   M4       3.40  70%   3.14  |  4.3   4.5      4.8 
   M5       4.40  61%   4.02  |  5.3   5.5      5.8   With a nut length of
   M6       5.20  65%   4.70  |  6.4   6.6      7.0   1.5 * diameter, 50% 
   M8       6.90  72%   6.47  |  8.4   9.0     10.0   engagement is stronger
   M10      8.70  71%   8.16  | 10.5  11.0     12.0   than the external thread.
   M12     10.50  70%   9.85  | 13.0  14.0     15.0
   M16     14.25  71%  13.55  |                       For CI and thin sheet,
   -------------------------------------------------- stick near 75%.
 
   Or in general:             # d is full thread depth.
   Drill Size = OD - (E*2d)   # E is e.g. 0.65
                              # d = kP , where P is thread pitch.
 
   Or transposed for E:    E = (OD - Drill_Size)/2d
 
                                                k is:    ISO Metric       0.613
                                                         UNF/UNC          0.613
                   # British Association                 BA               0.600
                   # BSW, BSF, ME (32 & 40 TPI),         Whitworth forms  0.640
                   # BSB, and BSP parallel.
 
                ----------------------------------------

 So for M12 x 1.5:

 d = 0.613 * 1.5 = 0.9195
 E = (12 - 10.5)/(2 * 0.9195) = 81.5%

 That's too much, especially for a deep hole. The 10.7 mm hole:

 E = (12 - 10.7)/(2 * 0.9195) = 70.6%

 would give Tom's spindle a fair chance.

 (In my previous post, I forgot that the above table is for Metric
 Coarse, i.e. 1.75 mm pitch @ M12. :-(

 What would Andy's 10.2 mm hole give with M12 x 1.75?:

 d = 0.613 * 1.75 = 1.07275
 E = (12 - 10.2)/(2 * 1.07275) = 84% 

 That's hard on the tap and spindle. Much better is:

 E = (12 - 10.5)/(2 * 1.07275) = 70%

 Erik

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