Tom, please read the last part. Going to a 10.7 mm drill for M12 x 1.5 is a good move, and may fix the problem.
On 23.01.16 11:48, andy pugh wrote: > On 23 January 2016 at 11:28, Erik Christiansen <dva...@internode.on.net> > wrote: > > > >> The OSG online tool recommends a 27/64” (10.7mm) drill, so I am very > >> close (0.008” difference). > > > > That only gives 60% thread engagement, if counting on my fingers is > > working for me. I was wrong there, see below. > Most digital calipers seem to have a table on the back. Mine says > 10.2mm for M12 x 1.75 > (Which is no help, as this is M12 x 1.5) > M10 x 1.5 is given as 8.5, which ties in well with the 10.5mm > suggested for M12 x 1.5. This is what I use: ---------------------------------------------------- Metric Coarse | BS 4168 Clearance hole: | | Type of fit: Size Drill E Core | Close Medium Free ---------------------------------------------------- M2 1.70 61% 1.51 | M2.5 2.15 63% 1.95 | WARNING: M3 2.60 65% 2.39 | 3.2 3.4 3.6 2.5mm drill -> 82%. M4 3.40 70% 3.14 | 4.3 4.5 4.8 M5 4.40 61% 4.02 | 5.3 5.5 5.8 With a nut length of M6 5.20 65% 4.70 | 6.4 6.6 7.0 1.5 * diameter, 50% M8 6.90 72% 6.47 | 8.4 9.0 10.0 engagement is stronger M10 8.70 71% 8.16 | 10.5 11.0 12.0 than the external thread. M12 10.50 70% 9.85 | 13.0 14.0 15.0 M16 14.25 71% 13.55 | For CI and thin sheet, -------------------------------------------------- stick near 75%. Or in general: # d is full thread depth. Drill Size = OD - (E*2d) # E is e.g. 0.65 # d = kP , where P is thread pitch. Or transposed for E: E = (OD - Drill_Size)/2d k is: ISO Metric 0.613 UNF/UNC 0.613 # British Association BA 0.600 # BSW, BSF, ME (32 & 40 TPI), Whitworth forms 0.640 # BSB, and BSP parallel. ---------------------------------------- So for M12 x 1.5: d = 0.613 * 1.5 = 0.9195 E = (12 - 10.5)/(2 * 0.9195) = 81.5% That's too much, especially for a deep hole. The 10.7 mm hole: E = (12 - 10.7)/(2 * 0.9195) = 70.6% would give Tom's spindle a fair chance. (In my previous post, I forgot that the above table is for Metric Coarse, i.e. 1.75 mm pitch @ M12. :-( What would Andy's 10.2 mm hole give with M12 x 1.75?: d = 0.613 * 1.75 = 1.07275 E = (12 - 10.2)/(2 * 1.07275) = 84% That's hard on the tap and spindle. Much better is: E = (12 - 10.5)/(2 * 1.07275) = 70% Erik ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application Performance APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just $35/Month Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective actions now Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. Signup Now! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=267308311&iu=/4140 _______________________________________________ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users