In my area of the world, the women who support victims of domestic violence
have put in thousands of hours working with men and institutions who offer
to provide wife-batterers and the system counselling services in lieu of
prosecution. I feel that these women's historical experience should be
greeted with attention and appreciation, instead of the apparent irritation
we have seen crop up on the list, as in most communities, whenever
questions are raised about these programs' actual efficiency in stopping
the violence.

As many have said here, the issue of such counselling's efficiency in
changing men and ensuring safety and justice for women and children cannot
be taken for granted, as some seem to require.

Attendance at batterer education sessions is occasionally voluntary (we all
know that batterers put out signs of contrition to maintain control and
sidestep consequences), but the available research in no way equates such
attendance with "personal change", a worthy but somewhat idealist goal. In
comparison, actual judicial intervention often does halt the assaults, if
only by dissuasion - as with any other crime - and by keeping abusers
physically away from women and children under threat.

Could it be that questions are rebuffed from what appears to be a model of
*entitlement* for abusive men? I sense the suggestion that anything done
must be done on men's terms. But isn't men's feeling of entitlement -- and
very real immunity -- the problem underlying DV and rape in the first place?

Rose Garrity is a founding member of the FIVERS discussion list (Feminists
against Intimate Violence Empowerment, Research and Support). I am relaying
with permission her summation of diversion programs' relative usefulness,
from a discussion we have been having on FIVERS*. A longer piece on this
issue from the New York State Federation of Battered Women's Shelters is
available on request from Montreal Men Against Sexism.

In solidarity,

Martin Dufresne
Secretary, MMAS
Montreal, Canada
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

*To look into the FIVERS list, simply send an email to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
or go to  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fivers

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From: Rose Garrity
Subject: Effectiveness of "counseling" on abuse

Re the use of "treatment" and "counseling" for male offenders of abuse
against their intimate female partners, I offer a "rant" FWIW:

When "batterer programs" were beginning two decades ago most were set up with
the belief that if these programs could teach individual men to practice
alternative behaviors and to "manage their anger", learn better communication
skills, take "time outs", and the like they would stop being abusive to their
intimate female partners.

These methods of addressing the offenders and providing programs for them
came out of the belief that men's violence against women is a problem of
individual pathology, that individual men have "deficiencies" in the ability
to be non-violent. (No one seemed to ever look at how well individual men
managed their anger or stayed non-violent with others in their lives besides
their intimate female partners!)

Even though there had been and continued to be profound activism and work
within the battered women's movement that explained the problem of men's
abuse against intimate female partners as a function of sexism and patriarchy
we still persisted in  providing programs to teach men to be non-violent, as
though they did not already know how to be peaceful and respectful.

This came, I believe, out of our extensive socialization to see behaviors of
oppression and control as individual dysfunction in need of "therapeutic"
interventions, rather than as normal functions of what we have been taught to
accept as "natural", for example entitlement and privilege that is acted out
by both individuals and institutions to enforce mandates that keep an
oppressive status quo in place. The whole process is mystified in a way that
hides from most of us the truth about what is really taking place.

As well intentioned as earlier approaches were, and still are among those who
pursue programs based upon this socially accepted  practice of
"intervention", we now should have a clear understanding that this approach
supports the idea that men are unable to be non-violent and respectful and
that intimate partner abuse is a result of individual pathology or
dysfunction, rather than a socially sanctioned response to institutionalized
sexism, (i.e. exaggerated male role behavior).

I believe that DV offenders do not need "treatment"  to stop their behaviors
of exaggerated male privilege. They should be held accountable by communities
and systems. Period. Until all of society practices "zero tolerance" for
men's violence against women "batterer treatment or intervention programs"
will do nothing more than act as excuses for manipulative abusers, provide
false hope to battered women, and allow the criminal legal system to continue
to avoid their real responsibility to hold offenders accountable. Meanwhile
lots of mental health and other practitioners make money providing programs
that are ineffective at best and dangerous at worst.

Rose Garrity



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