Simon wrote:
> On 02/22/2015 02:08 PM, Jose Gonzalez wrote:
>   
>>      If you want to grow your user base then there's no 'easier' way
>> than to have E support distributable shell-theming (restricted profiles
>> if you want). It's the best way to attract the attention of new and devoted
>> users and designers... those that will evangelize E for its coolness.
>>      There is really only so much you can do with current E themes, and
>> it's why so may are slight mods of each other... They do not really allow
>> for a fully creative approach to desktop theming.
>>
>>     
> Most of what your talking about is already possible, and all of it is 
> possible for distro maintainers, It is possible to set and include 
> wallpapers, fdo icon themes and cursor themes from within a existing 
> profile. As a theme designer about the only thing that wasn't possible 
> in e19 was semi transparent windows but i asked nicely and it will be 
> possible with e20.
>
> It is possible to ship profiles, I have been doing it with openSUSE for 
> ages, it just requires a little work have a look at 
> https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/X11:Enlightenment:Factory/enlightenment-profiles-openSUSE
>  
> just take the profiles in the tar and put them in 
> /usr/share/enlightenment/data/config/ normally i create them by logging 
> in with a test account setting up my layout then running the right, have 
> a look at 
> http://sleepwalker-hnd.blogspot.com.au/2013/08/e17-0174-efl-178-update-problem-at-start.html
>  
> yes it would be kinda nice if there was a more automated way of doing 
> that, but its not a distro issue its a core e issue, I think I talked to 
> raster about it a couple of years back and like all things its mostly 
> just time.
>
> If you want to know whats possible  have a look at
> http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/display.php?image=e-548ae08770d724.09363033.jpg
>  
>
> http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/display.php?image=e-548ad796dde145.72133123.jpg
>  
>
> I am slowly working on that theme its about 15% done, the enlightenment 
> theme is 10's of thousands of lines of code + all the images you need to 
> do, making a theme from scratch would be atleast a man month of full 
> time work, this is one of the reasons why there are people working on 
> theme editors to make writing themes quicker and easier, I use a bunch 
> of scripts that make some of this process a little easier but its still 
> plenty of work 
> http://simotek.net/tech/projects/opensuse-e/darkmod-enlightenment-theme-converter/
>
> Cheers
> Simon
>
>   

    From what I recall, and I admit that it's been a while, it is not really
possible for a user to distribute a profile they create. Distro maintainers
yes, but not designers/users who want to share their 'gui shell' - certainly
not in a way similar to how one can share current E themes.
    I'm well aware of what 'is possible', but it's not easy for people to
create and share such.

>>> I'd rather see more work on better/larger variety of E themes before we
>>> work on a profile distributor. As is there are only two fully feature
>>> complete E19 themes that are unique. Most of the rest are either copy+paste
>>> jobs of the two complete themes or they are missing a lot of things (such
>>> as elm components).
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 8:47 PM, Jose Gonzalez <jose_...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>    
>>>       
>>>>      Perhaps it's really more a reflection of people 'bored' with
>>>> the same kind of 'standard' desktops they've been seeing
>>>> for so many years now?
>>>>      As I've suggested before, a feature for E that would make it
>>>> far more interesting is a 'shell-theming' capability that would be
>>>> distributable - i.e. a module to allow people to make and distribute
>>>> the look&feel of the desktop (things like the bg and arrangement
>>>> of various gadgets on virtual desktops, etc).
>>>>      Along with some new, cool gadgets (or extensions of some
>>>> current ones, like allowing for the main menu to hold other gadgets)
>>>> this would be a very attractive selling feature for E distributions...
>>>> Designers and normal users can make or download all sorts of
>>>> nice 'shell-themes' just as they now do with ordinary E themes.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>      
>>>>         
>>>>> As with every Bodhi release, the trolls really come out with regards to
>>>>>        
>>>>>           
>>>> the
>>>>      
>>>>         
>>>>> Enlightenment theme. Some real gems over here ->
>>>>>
>>>>>        
>>>>>           
>>>> http://www.webupd8.org/2015/02/bodhi-linux-300-available-for-download.html
>>>>      
>>>>         
>>>>> On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 6:50 AM, Tom Hacohen <tom.haco...@samsung.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>        
>>>>>           
>>>>>> On 17/02/15 09:25, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>          
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> First Bodhi stable release featuring an Ubuntu 14.04 core and the E19
>>>>>>> destkop.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.bodhilinux.com/2015/02/17/bodhi-linux-3-0-0-release/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>> I'm an Arch user myself, but I still love and appreciate your work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Glad to have you back. :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Tom.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>          
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>
>   


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