I think you underestimate both just how much one can do
with such a "simple" customization (especially when one starts
to consider other possible gadgets and modules), and how much
people like to share things they create and engage in.


> I agree with Jeff.
>
>
> BUT...
>
> TLDR:
> If there's other people that doesn't have programming skill big enough
> to spend them on E core developing (bugs, E20, etc etc) like me, but
> want to create theme, maybe we shold try to create a project togheter?
>
> "If by my life or death I can protect you, I will. You have my sword..."
> We need someone that create a good layout (a designer?)
>
> "...and you have my bow..."
> a couple of E coder (Simotek? Stephan from relighted? Someone else?)
>
> "...and my axe!"
> and someone that know GTK or QT (is there anybody out there?).
>
> Try to make a call to arm.
> Of course the few things I know about E theme, I'm glad to give for the
> project :)
>
> ___
>
> NO, I WANT ALL THE STUPID DUMA'S THOUGHTS
>
> I agree with Jeff.
> Changing gadget layout, wallpaper, icon themes are things that an user
> can do and can't make a distro unique.
> It's just a simple and minimum customization.
>
> New Enlightenment themes it's an important focus, but I suppose we have
> to admit some things:
> * Feel the taste. It's stupid and I don't like to follow fashion taste,
> but users do this: why on blogs ElementaryOS, QuartzOS or Papyrus are
> mentioned a lot? Because they use a stupid flat cool design (like
> Material design) and do nothing different from their father distro. So
> now people like this and, unfortunately, most of the distro follow this
> taste: also the Ubuntu themes have "flatter" widgets than before. E Dark
> themes with the high bevel looks very old and people troll the web how
> ugly is.
>
> * The third graphics library: maybe it's only a paranoid of mine, but
> GTK and QT now uses automagically the same theme, so users don't find
> big differences when they use Skype (QT) or Gedit (GTK). E with the few
> application looks in all the system different and not unified. Finally
> we have a Dark GTK theme, but we have to recognise that all the theme
> created need a GTK (or QT) theme (blingbling, black&white, detour,
> darkness), or users don't use it. So a theme developer should know not
> only the ELM/EDJE, but alsto the GTK2 and css for GTK3. Or we are forced
> to create port (like Radiance or Klak theme)... and the web trolls E
> because it follow a look of a distro they don't like.
>
> I often asking myself "Why I don't create a new theme? Completely new!"
> but then I answer me: "Man, I can't develop ALSO the GTK 3, because I
> don't know css and I don't know all the new widget they create and thei
> exception", so I only recompile old themes like OpenGEU's ones and other
> crappy things I've done on DeviantART.
> I love blingbling theme and I want to create ELM part of it for E19, but
> it's something needed? Someone use this? Could attract new user to E?
>
> If there's other people that doesn't have programming skill big enough
> to spend them on E core developing (bugs, E20, etc etc) like me, but
> want to create theme, maybe we shold try to create a project togheter?
>
> "If by my life or death I can protect you, I will. You have my sword..."
> We need someone that create a good layout (a designer?)
>
> "...and you have my bow..."
> a couple of E coder (Simotek? Stephan from relighted? Someone else?)
>
> "...and my axe!"
> and someone that know GTK or QT (is there anybody out there?).
>
> Try to make a call to arm.
> Of course the few things I know about E theme, I'm glad to give for the
> project :)
>
> Bye!
> Duma
>
> Il giorno dom, 22/02/2015 alle 21.37 +1000, David Seikel ha scritto:
>   
>> I'm just responding to this bit.
>>
>> On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 17:13:16 +1030 Simon <si...@simotek.net> wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> As a theme designer about the only thing that wasn't possible in e19
>>> was semi transparent windows but i asked nicely and it will be
>>> possible with e20.
>>>       
>> Semi transparent windows has been possible for quite some time in E, I
>> use them all the time.  There are various colours that can be tweaked.
>> I Personally like my unfocused windows to be semi transparent, so I
>> tweaked "Composite Focus-out Color"'s Object colour.
>>     


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