On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 02:33:14 +1000 David Seikel <onef...@gmail.com> said:

> I forgot to mention, if ugly hard to use web sites are an instant turn
> off for you, why are we using Phab?  It's a horrid thing that uses made
> up words for it's main navigation.  Very hard to use.  Even harder to
> use it to show stuff to people that don't have an account.  Right now I
> can't find a document I know I have seen there before.  I at least use
> proper English, well except for words like SledjHamr.  lol

phab is a DEVELOPER site for core developers and for people to file bugs. yeah.
it uses weird names. but it's actualyl cleranly laid out and easy to ind. look
to the left nav bar and see:

"differential - review code" ... gee i wonder what that is or
"maniphest - tasks and bugs" ... well there it is.

phab is a TOOL for developers to work together with. seriously - find a better
tool that integrates bugs, developer wiki, code review, commit log tracking and
post-commit review, pastebin, basic file sharing etc. etc. - find one... good
luck. you end up having to run multiple disparate different things all of
which require their own login and own db and dont integrate together. phab is a
BACK-END TOOL for developers to collaborate.

that's why www.enlightenment.org is DIFFERENT. it's a simple wiki whose intent
is for marketing/getting interest of public at large and providing
documentation for developers using efl api's, but not involved in e/efl
development.

i go to www.enlightenment.org - right there, a logo then next.. ooh a
screenshot. ok. how do i get this? oh look.. "download"! oh look at that! clear
staring-me-in-the-face blue links to downloads! hey - as i said - it's not some
beacon of perfection but seriously... it's quick and simple to find what i need
to get started and gives me a reason to get started.

but i'm not complaining of being ignored here. i know full well that the
website could and should be better and i'll get around to that some time when i
get the time and the time is right. i need to get back to some nice screenshots
and what not.

but you need to take a good hard look at your site and make it "digestible" to
get people to have interest. have links to getting started/download/whatever
simple and obvious near the top or right of the page as that is where people
start. or have it smack bang in the center in a big fat button. center is where
people start then they start scanning/reading along top, down the right side.
that's usual behaviour in looking for something.

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