Hello all,

hope I'm still allowed here. Sorry if my humor was tooo
straight.

On Mon, 5 Sep 2011 17:17:34 +0900
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote:
> 
> no. there isn't. e's menu behavior is 1 size fits all here. this
> means submenus always open in a predicable direction/location
> allowing for better muscle-memory. this is in fact a conscious
> decision NOT to do it the way qt/gtk do as i have found that way much
> more annoying as you have to figure out which way the menu opened
> this time (as well as having to adjust the arrow display and so on
> which looks totally odd when you have multiple arrows pointing at
> eachother). also when a menu is wider than the screen (really low res
> screen maybe) you cant scroll along to read it with the "change
> direction" mode. as well as some child menus opening to the right,
> some to the left depending how wide they are. overall not a good look
> imho. :)

Carsten, I fully agree with you here. The more complicated an approach
gets, the more it was wrong from the very beginning. But that's also
why I rather wished to see this (early days) menu die for a
dialog/card-view (at least optionally.)

Also, the left-click menue action conflicts with the elsewhere common
left-click rubber-band selection of desktop icons, for example. Btw.,
the placement of the desktop icons seems to be broken. I can't make the
icons to stay on a line. They just jump away to ramdom places (not in
a grid or on a line, rather diogonally or on a sinus wave.)


> > So, this has become quite a long post. But I really like E17
> > already a lot, and what to learn how to use it effectively and
> > efficiently. So thanks for your patience, everyone, and keep up the
> > good work!
> > Alex

I fully agree! E17 is promising but also quite a jungle of new or
just different ideas. And some look a bit dangerous from my point of
view, like how freely themes control desktop behaviour (could a dialog
become invisible but still fetch clicks, for example?) Well, I'll
possibly learn about this after my first self-written minesweeper in
edje :)

Best wishes,
Dennis Heuer

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