--- On Thu, 9/4/08, einseele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From: einseele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [epistemology 9389] Re: johnreed take 25 - August 17, 2008
> To: "Epistemology" <[email protected]>
> Date: Thursday, September 4, 2008, 2:46 PM
> I dont agree completely with the allegory
>
> > Newton compared a scientist to a child playing with
> shells
> > on the ocean shore.
> > -Shells represent concepts and theories.
> > -Ocean represents the unknown Marvelous wherefrom the
>
> > Shells had emerged and new ones will turn up.
>
> I do believe the Ocean is represented in the shells.
> Ocean may be not there, but the shell will trace it
> entirely. That is
> what concepts and theories do.
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G:
Name one that deals with transcendency or pretends to
trace whatever it may be entirely. With exception of
Creationism, of course, but that's not science.
Science coordinates constructs of mind called events,
doubtless triggered by transcendency, but leaving it
totally inaccessible.
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The gap is not bridgeable,
> but the gap
> istself is that trace.
>
> A key word is absence. All sciences and knowledge methods,
> even
> alternative, magic, religious, etc.., look into objects
> which point to
> somewhere else, Oceans in the end.
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G:
I don't know about magic and religion, but science does
not look into "objects", ignoring this naive realism's
term, but observes events and coordinates them in
abstract maps called models.
That deals also with yours below, so I finish here.
Georges.
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>
> Finally, although important IMO, Oceans, or the unknow,
> always and in
> all cases ends (all knowledge does) in the space above us.
> We will find ourselves, justifying knowledge, relating to
> outer space
> "above" us. Say Stars for short.
>
> This is not metaphysics, I'm pointing a fact.
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